Londinium Vectis

MediumRoastSteam

Enea_ - ah, ok. I thought they were roughly the same in that regard. My mistake then. 👍

dfk41

I thought it might just be worth revisiting these 2 updates to the little diddly by Londinium in June last year

CafeNoir

MediumRoastSteam Totally agree, for me a small form factor is highly desirable.

Should I have a wish list, love the LSM group, PID control would be great, a boiler cover (burns are part of the La Pavoni/Elektra MCAL owner experience, lol!), modest weight and proportions…Mara X sized would be brilliant for the modern sized kitchen

Spring or direct lever, either is fine if there can be assistance given to the spring , like the Gaggia Mini…

An open boiler is a much simpler beast in terms of stability but most people want steam….

Structural strength can be engineered in without spending a fortune on heavy plate, it’s a matter of intelligent design

Wow, this is dangerous territory for someone who thought they’d got to their personal happy place, lol!!!

CafeNoir

dfk41 Used Creminas in The Antipodes are made of Unobtanium, with consequently silly prices used…around $4,000 plus if and when they come up….new they’re RRP AUD6,890.

I’m not that keen on LM myself but a new Linea Mini is AUD7399, and a Bianca is AUD4399……Cremina’s really a bit spendy for what you get here.

dfk41

CafeNoir It is peculiar. Last Cremina I owned had been totally stripped down and rebuilt and I had to give it away at 800! I would not be so fast as to write off the LM group until you have tasted coffee from one!

CafeNoir

dfk41 Lol! Not writing it off, just well outside my budgetary restraints, being semi-retired 🙂

Amberale

CafeNoir

Semi retired just means you are closer to either being dead, or worse, told by your doctor that you cant do coffee any more.
Spend your $$ before someone else gets to.
You can always follow TomPoland’s route and buy/try/sell.

CoyoteOldMan

Amberale I thought Tom’s route was buy/try/buy another?

Amberale

CoyoteOldMan

No mate, he keeps things at home quite minimalist from what I have seen.
He also sells his lightly used equipment at very philanthropic prices to fellow coffee enthusiasts.

whinmoor85

Why are there no pictures of this machine yet? It’s been in the works for more than a year right?

dfk41

whinmoor85 I bet there are loads of computer images! First talked about October 2017 when a bunch of the faithful all put their names down as potential owners……thats fan boys for you!

whinmoor85

dfk41 Five years!? 😯

Odyssey Argos has had pictures and a checklist online for ages now.

DavecUK

whinmoor85 Paolo developed the Evo during covid…in 6 months or so

dfk41

DavecUK Shows the power of being in control of your own destiny!

LMSC

dfk41 Bizzare though. Giving the benefit of doubt, 2 ¾ years. It’s too long a time. I wonder recent product developments keeps it on the innovation table. One needs to draw a line. Otherwise, any product will never see the light.

dfk41

LMSC The question matey, is who does the innovation table belong to? Personally, all I hear is excuses sprinkled with fairy dust. I suppose the bottom line is, those who want to believe will continue to believe, and vice versa!

LMSC

dfk41 who does the innovation table belong to

Exactly! obviously the business owner or those working for the owner as long as the owner is calling the shots. Otherwise, GL.

Knluk

I am also curious about the final product as L1 was the first lever I saw online and I was impressed. I dropped L a pm last week about the Vectis. And they replied “not yet, check back next month (Sep) I think”. Trust it doesn’t mean anything given the track record. Impressed by how they can keep information so confined if the machine is going to be launched / open for preorder next month.

dfk41

Knluk Diarise it matey, and then next month go back and ask the same question……..or better still, after a couple of months try head butting your garden wall….it will feel remarkably similar

Cuprajake

I know there’s no love loss for londinuim for some people,

I’d just leave it there, no need to comment, or speak of them, you’re actually doing them more service giving them band width.

You’re better off shouting about how good the new generation of levers that are far better. Than comparing apples and oranges.

All it does is make it look like you have a point to prove

Giphy - Fire Oops GIF

dfk41

Cuprajake Point taken, but sometimes opportunities are just too good to miss…..at school, in rugby I played Number 8…….when I left school I was too small at 6′2 to be effective so migrated to the front row. The trouble with props is they do not know how to take a step backwards……ever!

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