Londinium Vectis
Amberale I thought Tom’s route was buy/try/buy another?
No mate, he keeps things at home quite minimalist from what I have seen.
He also sells his lightly used equipment at very philanthropic prices to fellow coffee enthusiasts.
Why are there no pictures of this machine yet? It’s been in the works for more than a year right?
whinmoor85 I bet there are loads of computer images! First talked about October 2017 when a bunch of the faithful all put their names down as potential owners……thats fan boys for you!
dfk41 Five years!? 😯
Odyssey Argos has had pictures and a checklist online for ages now.
DavecUK Shows the power of being in control of your own destiny!
LMSC The question matey, is who does the innovation table belong to? Personally, all I hear is excuses sprinkled with fairy dust. I suppose the bottom line is, those who want to believe will continue to believe, and vice versa!
I am also curious about the final product as L1 was the first lever I saw online and I was impressed. I dropped L a pm last week about the Vectis. And they replied “not yet, check back next month (Sep) I think”. Trust it doesn’t mean anything given the track record. Impressed by how they can keep information so confined if the machine is going to be launched / open for preorder next month.
Knluk Diarise it matey, and then next month go back and ask the same question……..or better still, after a couple of months try head butting your garden wall….it will feel remarkably similar
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I know there’s no love loss for londinuim for some people,
I’d just leave it there, no need to comment, or speak of them, you’re actually doing them more service giving them band width.
You’re better off shouting about how good the new generation of levers that are far better. Than comparing apples and oranges.
All it does is make it look like you have a point to prove
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Cuprajake Point taken, but sometimes opportunities are just too good to miss…..at school, in rugby I played Number 8…….when I left school I was too small at 6′2 to be effective so migrated to the front row. The trouble with props is they do not know how to take a step backwards……ever!
Not only is it tiring, it also paints the forum in a bad light, there’s already been one comment on the londinuim negativity,
I’m fine with us comparing and discussion etc
This is the friendliest forum, with great input and questions genuinely get answered
👍👍👍 let’s keep it that way 👍👍👍
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Cuprajake Jake, you are fairly new to the Londinium saga……I have been involved with it since 2012. Perhaps I am party to a lot more information than you. Perhaps I am aware of the dirty tricks they have got up to in that time……who knows. I do not think I am being particularly unfair or harsh in what I say. Certainly no one seems to dispute it. We go weeks and months without any Londinium chat, then all of a sudden, some red buses come along. I agree the chatter has been intense of recent, so I will leave it to others for the time being. Everyone knows my feelings on the matter. Nothing wrong with the machines but the new ones are not game changers on the world stage……for me anyway.
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why the hell are we talking about a machine that is not yet released (and no release date), no price, not tested or performance, verified. This thread has run since January 2022 and still no machine. Anyone reading this would think they could go and buy a Vectis, even comments about performance are meaningless, no one knows (not even the creator), how it’s going to perform until they test it.
I remember when quite a few members of a certain forum were badmouthing the Vesuvius Evo, a machine that existed, was tested, priced and worked. Some of the comments were truly ridiculous and aimed at potential buyers to put them off. None of them had ever seen, let alone used an Evo. Their behaviour was excessive and appalling. I don’t want to go down that route. Lets keep things factual and useful.
I’m personally bored with this discussion, as it’s not productive and for a machine that doesn’t even exist. When it does, we have a price and someone owns one with the means to properly test it….then lets reopen discussions. Until then, I am closing this thread.