@RobertRo101 Hey, if you can confirm whether your v2 behaves like my upgraded to V2 machine when changing the 3 way microswitch?
I want to know if its normal or the technician miss-connected some wires
Lelit Mara X V1 and V2 – the differences
MisterH1337 Mine doen’t blink.
hi everyone, I would to ask about mara x. in my country, currently v1 (with v2 housing) was more cheaper than v2 (that still not ready yet and available pre order only until april), I mostly drink latte in the morning (maybe I made 2-3 cups in a row for whole my family), should I go with v1 or take pre order with v2 ? thanks in advanced. it just made me frustating about which machine that should I choose, and little bit can’t be patient to having one 😂
ianIdn should I go with v1 or take pre order with v2
It is always nice to have the newest version, but if you mostly make milk drinks - I think there won’t be much difference in performance (you would use the mode with steam boost anyway, which is available on the V1. I am not sure if there are differences in the set temps in this mode in V2 and what they are, but V1 works perfectly for me in the steam boost mode).
If I were you, I would weigh the difference in price and the wait time for V2 and decide by that. If the price difference is insignificant and the wait time short - I would get the V2. If you can save a nice chunk of money and/or get the machine much sooner and don’t want to wait (plus you would use the machine in steam boost mode anyway) - then V1 might be a good option too.
The one other thing is the OPV mod. Newer V1’s already have the OPV discharge routed to the pump instead of to the drip tray, so it’s possible that you won’t have to do it on a V1 machine, but you would need to check with the retailer. If you do need to do it - it’s not a big deal: Lelit Insider recently released a video showing how to do it.
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ianIdn if you think you would use the old HX mode, where it works like a standard HX, flush a bit and make lots of milk drinks, the older one may. Suit you.
If you don’t want to to flush, want a more specific espresso americano mode with very little steam boost and the steam boost option. Without a pure HX mode (which personally I never used..) then wait for the V2.
DavecUK then wait for the V3
Are you hinting something here Dave, or are there just too many Lelit’s spinning in your head and you thought of a V3 because of Bianca/Elizabeth? ;-)
HX mode is useless for me on Mara X, so I would definitely not mind losing it. The new ‘no boost’ mode sounds like it would have more potential to be useful, but not essential for everyone. If one only makes milk drinks - it will not get used. Also, my understanding is that the ‘no steam boost’ mode will only have an effect on the second shot and onwards (until then - steam boost and no-steam-boost would be exactly the same, won’t they?). In this case, if you only make milk drinks, or only make single shots, then V1 would be just as good (so might be worth considering for a good discount/faster availability?). Am I wrong?
ianIdn Well as the MaraX needs to build up the steam pressure once you start brewing, it’s better to wait until the shot is finished for optimum result. In machines with the old HX mode, then you can pat your head and rub your tummy in circles if you want.
At home, I’m not in a commercial establishment, so the need to steam and brew at the same time is not important.
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I tried to do it once just for the experiment and I think it turned out fine, but in normal use I always do a shot, then steam after. As Dave said, in a home environment I don’t see the point, and I like to focus on my shot when pulling and not let steaming at the same time distract me. My machine is V1, but I don’t see why there would be a difference in this respect between V1 and V2.
I have had my Mara X V1 for two years, added flow control kit and has worked flawlessly. Last month I purchased a V2 GICAR Box from “lamachinnadecaffe” in Italy for 82 euros (89 USD) and had it shipped to the USA. Swapped it after confirming with Lelit that there were no other hardware required. Also did the OPV water reroute as Lelit has on the new V2’s. For 82 euros ($89 USD) I have a Mara X V2.
EfrainPR I have had my Mara X V1 for two years, added flow control kit and has worked flawlessly. Last month I purchased a V2 GICAR Box from “lamachinnadecaffe” in Italy for 82 euros (89 USD) and had it shipped to the USA. Swapped it after confirming with Lelit that there were no other hardware required. Also did the OPV water reroute as Lelit has on the new V2’s. For 82 euros ($89 USD) I have a Mara X V2.
So how do you find the new V2 Gicar box compared to the V1 Gicar? Is it an improvement? Can you describe the difference?
New member of the forum here. I currently have a Breville Barista Pro (2 years plus) and a new Niche Zero grinder.
Am strongly considering upgrading and the Lelit Mara X is pretty much at the top of my list, so this conversation is timely for me and quite interesting, although I’m missing some of the context since I’ve never used a Mara X.
I am the only coffee drinker in the house and typically have a milk drink in the morning (usually about 3oz of oatmilk), then a couple of shots and/or Americanos during the rest of the day. Not a “power user” at all.
I’ve been trying to understand the differences between the coffee vs. steam priority modes and find myself somewhat confused as to which of these modes would best work with my workflow/habits.
If I want to leave that priority setting on coffee priority, for instance, can I still steam milk reasonably quickly (or at the same time) as I’m pulling a shot?
I do understand that the coffee priority will keep my brew temperature rock solid which is definitely a preference for me. I just don’t understand how it may affect my steaming.
I do occasionally have visitors, most of whom want milk drinks. For those occasions, would I switch to steam priority?
What is a typical workflow for someone like me?
Thank you for your patience…. :)
JPORIS Coffee mode is the new mode and as you say designed to prevent overheating and give very good temp control.
Steam boost mode is similar to the old coffee mode with a longer boost.
HX mode has gone.
Welcome to the forum.
I should have added, you will be able to steam, in coffee mode, but not large quantitites or quickly, but in a pinch I guess you could steam small amounts. Far better to switch it to steam boost mode if you want to make lattes etc.. Or just use steam boost mode if you don’t know what you will be making.
Doram The V2 does behave a bit differently, the steam boost last longer and a bit more powerful. I steam 12-14 oz of milk (I do 25 grams in 50 grams out of espresso for my lattes, like them strong)and I can now finish a bit more quicker and the temp is hotter ( I like my milk to be 150-160 degrees Fahrenheit), and there is still enough steam/power to do another 12-14oz of milk right after if I have family/friends visiting. So that feature does works better for me and my work flow. I only do milk drinks in the morning, the new coffee mode suits me perfect, since I now can switch to this mode for the rest of the day and have a very stable temperature. Is it worth to change the GICAR box to V2? It all depends on your work flow. I like to tinker with my “toys” the engineer in me says yes, (thats why I added flow control kit) but only if you can buy the GICAR box for under $100 USD.
JPORIS I had my “new” V2 Mara X in the new coffee mode for few days in the morning when I was checking the new features and yes you will be able to steam milk it will be slower, but if your doing 3-4 oz like you mentioned then you can probably leave it in this mode all the time and switch too steam mode if you need to do larger amounts of steam milk if you have company.
Thank you for your replies! Helpful.
Another benefit of the v2 is that my stress levels will be lower when cleaning! I got a v2 recently but it had a v1 manual supplied. I was backflushing in Xmode steam (pos 1) which was in retrospect a bit silly as every flush would boost the pressure, correlated with a rise in anxiety! Now I can put it in Xmode coffee (pos 0) and have a stress free cleaning routine backflushing without causing the pressure to rise!
Hi all,
I have been an observer on this forum for a few months, and now I finally have created an account. 🤠
Last month I made the plunge and purchased the new V2 Mara X. To figure out how the Xmode Steam and Xmode coffee operated, I installed a Raspberry PI to observe the machine’s temperature readout. (I’m not the original creator, I just followed instructions from another post).
Fair to say that I got lots of interesting information, along with the fact that I have the V2 hardware with the V1 software 😓
Since installing this logger, iv noticed that sometimes it will have issues with the brew temperature settling after the steam boost period.
@DavecUK in your review you mentioned there’s a 5min window before it will take around 15mins+ for the machine to settle back to its original setpoint temperature. I do understand there are so many different variables for cooling rates but it seems like the PID is sometimes finding it hard to settle.
My software version says: C123b
In this photo, I pulled 3x (flush + wait ) to observe the brew temp impact, (indicated by the spikes in the blue graph) followed by a proper shot on the 4th. I guess I must have triggered multiple steam boosts? because then it took over 3 hours for it to stabilize.
You can see pretty large temperature oscillations in the heat exchanger temps till it settles.
Annotated:
This is what a typical shot looks like with a nice settling behavior down to the target temp.
So, I’m not really sure why sometimes the machine takes hours to settle. Any ideas I’m willing to try and post a log of it 😀.