I have a massive wood fired brick oven that I built in my backyard. I love the ritual of chopping the wood, building the fire, managing the temperature and executing a day’s worth of cooking (sometimes overnight too).

I’d rather have an electric oven.

Okay, in fairness, I’d like to have both. One for outdoors in the warmer months and entertaining crowds, one for indoors the rest of the year.

You’ve hit on a couple of the most important issues, such as year round use, ease of temperature management, efficiency of electric compared to gas/wood. There are other issues as well. The exposure to particulates from wood/gas cooking is garnering more and more negative scientific consensus. I also live in an area that has been prone to massive wildfires–further increasing my exposure to particulates.

The frequent negative is that an electric doesnt doesn’t cook the pizza the same way. Utter hogwash. A pizza crust cant tell if the temperature was created by any particular means. I have heard that electric ovens create a drier environment, but I’ve never tested this out nor seen it. As for taste, at 500C, burning wood or charcoal are not smoking or imparting taste. And, the fact it can be used indoors means it will get double the use of an outdoor oven. I’ve also struggled at planned events if I screw up the temperature management or the weather turns bad.

One of my favorite pizza makers in the world switched to electric decades ago as it provides greater control, quicker heat times and greater efficiency. His crust is the best I’ve ever tried.

But, it’s a personal decision. It’s a big purchase, might as well get what you will enjoy the most.

I still use my oven, I crank it up to 250°c which takes 6 minutes to cook a pizza. I kind of like the idea of a pizza oven but the weather is rarely good enough and it would be marginal gains over a normal oven.

Well I’ve just seen an Ooni Volt 12 on sale in Ebay brand new still in its box for £649 offered £630 and got it. Also in with the price he has given an Ooni bamboo pizza peel and serving board worth £35, an Ooni metal perforated pizza peel worth £60 and a laser temp gun worth £22.99 all unused. So, that’s £117.99 of free stuff plus a saving of £79 off the Ooni website price for the Volt.

It can reach a temp of 450C in 20 minutes and you can control both bottom and top heat seperately depending on what pizza you are cooking or how you like it done. So, pizza all year round regardless of the weather.

Will be driving to Manchester on Friday to pick up a round trip of 158 miles which will cost me absolutely nothing in fuel as my other half charges our EV at work for free.

Who said there isn’t a God😁

Most of the pizzerias in New York use electric ovens and really anything above 300c is going to get you great results.

I will say though I’d still recommend a Koda for anyone tempted by an outdoor one. They stow away in a cupboard easily and take zero time to set up, just pop the legs down, clip on the gas actuator and ignite.

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So with all the pizza talk and what not I decided to order an ooni

It came today needless to say it’s going back FFS

Mark on the stone, possible issue

Then I took the oven out the box



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    The first one I received the stone was broken in half. I think it’s just Neanderthal ‘somebody else’s problem’ shipping/handling staff.

    Hopefully you can get a replacement sorted quickly and easily.

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    Picking mine up today but to complete my indoor/outdoor setup this arrived yesterday….

    A portable halogen hob. Will be darn useful in the kitchen too, even more so now I’ve changed all my cooking pans to stainless steel. My gas stove and oven is becoming more redundant each day. Hopefully next year will refurb the cooking area in the kitchen and replace the double oven gas cooker with a built in steam/bake combi oven at eye level. But the choice out there is quite overwhelming…. Not to mention some of the prices!

      2100W. Rated frequency 50-60Hz and transmission power <17.9dBm

      Made pizza in my modded Weber, still a ball ache, esp when the dough wasn’t brilliant

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      Well I have finally got it and as Arkwright would say, after a bit of jer…jer…jiggling stuff around I managed to find a spot for it in my already gadget laden kitchen. Put it on high for 20 minutes to season it as instructed.

      Now to make the pizza dough and let it ferment in the fridge overnight and see if it as easy and as good as all the YouTube videos I have seen claim it is.

      Disclaimer… if they are naff it will be the chef not the apperatus.😁

      I use this for dough, easy enough to memorise too.

      https://mypizzacorner.com/pizza-dough-calculator/

      If you’re fermenting overnight, I find just leaving it out works well. I only use the fridge for longer ferments but don’t really bother with that these days.

      My typical approach for Neapolitan is make the dough early evening, knead and leave in the bowl overnight.

      Ball up the dough around midday to make pizzas around 6pm. Always cover the dough otherwise you get a skin on it. You can use oil but I don’t like adding oil to the dough really.

      If you do want to use the fridge, take the balls out about 4 hours before you plan to use them otherwise they’ll be difficult to stretch out and will shrink back down.

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        HarveyMushman I didn’t make it

        I sent the instructions to the Mrs, got home to a blob of hard dough🤣 not even risen

        Then found out we had no semolina flour to put on the peel. 🤯😭

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          Cuprajake Then found out we had no semolina flour to put on the peel.

          Well… you have already shown us the Niche can grind green coffee… next time, grind some pasta?

          (Disclaimer: I’m joking. Please don’t get any ideas.) 😉

          I typically use the overnight levain recipe from Ken Forkish’s “Flour, Water, Salt, Yeast.” I’m not sure how many hundred pizzas I’ve made with that recipe, but if you like using a sourdough starter, it’s excellent. Needs at least an six hours in the fridge, but 2-3 days is probably better. Nothing like torturing a sourdough starter for a couple of days to bring out the best flavors and textures. Basic schedule is mix dough in evening, give it three or four folds, leave out overnight, shape in the morning, pop in fridge for 6 hours to 3 days. Take out about 45 minutes before baking.

          Harvey’s recipe above looks almost identical to what I use with instant yeasts. Also the warning about the strength of the flour is important. I use some pretty high protein flours for long ferments. If you have low protein flour, a long ferment breaks down the gluten too much and you get flabby dough.

          Yeah that’s a great point actually!

          I use Caputo Pizzeria flour and then their Semola for stretching/launching. Really easy to get hold of these days, usually even on Amazon or if you’ve got an Italian deli in your town they sometimes stock it.

          Also everyone’s got a favourite tomato. Don’t fall for the British ‘San Marzano’ that some supermarkets occasionally push. Whilst it is a variety, the best ones are the ones grown in Vesuvian soil.

          My favourites are La Fiammante or Casa Marrazzo. Both are low acidity and work great as a Neapolitan sauce. Strain them and just crush with your hands with a bit of seasoning.

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          Well, this evening is one of those where you just question if home pizza ovens are worth it…

          Made some great dough, started with a brilliant garlic bread. Turned the heat down ready for the next pizza.

          Stretched it out, went to launch it and the flame had blown out and the temp dropped to below 200! Pizza got stuck to the peel while waiting to warm up then the next one caught the peel on the way in and folded over.

          All my fault and can’t blame the tools but when you prep everything and get it all laid out, everyone’s hungry, it’s not ideal. Serves me right for saying how amazing gas ovens are.

          When it all goes well it’s really great but when it goes wrong it makes me want to never do it again 😂

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