dutchy101 ever heard of ‘torrefacto’? I had to find out about it when we were on hols in Spain last year too! Found out by googling ‘why does coffee taste so bad in Spain’!! I went back to drinking tea

https://www.spainrevealed.com/blog/the-curious-case-of-spanish-coffee-aka-what-s-torrefacto

Cuprajake curious to see how long you last before giving in!

    There are machines and grinders in the reception area. Hoppers are half-full but they’re never in use. Presumably this is for the winter time. I can only hope the beans are thrown away before the winter season starts

    dutchy101 ha! And no offence to any Spanish friends here btw just a bit of research that’s all🤔

    JahLaza

    I’ve had 5 this morning to make up for the lost days 😅

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    dutchy101 They seem to be using pre-ground coffee from the grinds chamber every time

    That’s not necessarily an issue, if the volume is sufficiently high. If they turn out >1,000 shots a day at a fairly consistent rate through the day, the beans in the distributor are always fresh (a doser for a Major holds 360 g, or ~40 single shots - in 14 hours of opening 8 - 22 that gets refreshed nearly 2 x hour). If they have a peak in the morning and one in the evening, during the day you may get some stale grounds. And if the volume is low because they make shitty coffee, then they’ll keep making it.

    BTW - note that a “torrefazione” in Italy is just a roastery. No malarkey with adding sugar!

    In Spain, they commonly use UHT milk for cafe con leche. That makes a big difference to taste too. I actually don’t mind it (which is good ’cos I’m moving over there soon).

      -Mac I think UHT tastes fine as well. Got used to it during my student days. I like evaporated milk as well (but not so much in tea).

      dutchy101 I’ve spent quite a bit of time cycling on Mallorca & well all over Spain.
      I no longer bother ordering an espresso & understand when café comes with leché. A Cortado is about as adventurous as I get. Maybe I’ve just been extremely unlucky

      Quite coincidentally this place has popped up on a news feed today if you happen to be in Palma.
      https://thebarn.de/pages/the-barn-mallorca

      Also heard some good reports for this place in Sineu
      https://www.facebook.com/people/Sa-Mola-13/100062939275425/

      I’ve just paid £45 for 3 fish n chip, and sausage n chips. Then preceded to chuck mine in the bin 🤢🤢🤢 in Wales and it’s not even nice fish.

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        Cuprajake Shouldn’t eat the national dish of the North in Wales…you need to eat their local food. Not sure what it is, could be Lava Bread, which is nothing like Lembas Bread. Also Cawl and lastly, I guess Welsh rarebit?

        OMG, that’s a disappointment at that price!! Where are you staying? Yes, Cawl and Laver bread, I guess, but the latter is perhaps best described as an acquired taste!! Hot welsh cakes off the griddle are worth finding if you can, though.

        At a park dean in Ty mwar

        Yeah wasn’t the best. Then we got nipped on the arcades swallowing coins and not working. Things can only get better.

        Plan to bin the holiday park after tomorrow and go exploring. We have paid for some activities, It’s way too expensive for what it is.

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          Yes, we’ve just been camping up in Yorkshire and it is noticeable how expensive things are now. The staycation boom post-Covid has fuelled a lot of it, but the cost of hols at home seems to have rocketed!!