FadedFrontiers The Decent is a coffee machine. It makes coffee from whatever you put into it…..like an oven. The variables it allows you to control are great. What about trying to achieve constant level with bean roasting, grinding, distribution, tamping etc etc…..until you can control those, the Decent is as effective as the UK with its circa 1% contribution to net zero, reaching it first with all of its hypocrisy.

Whether you think you can or whether you think you cannot, you are probably right anyway.

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    FadedFrontiers but afterwards nobody ever seems to put their hands up and say, oh I was wrong about this maybe they did do what they said they would.

    You could equally same the same about the failures, or products that didn’t remotely live up to the expectations and (in more recent years) influencer shizzle around them.

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        DavecUK You could equally same the same about the failures, or products that didn’t remotely live up to the expectations and (in more recent years) influencer shizzle around them.

        Yes and I think that’s well discussed here, for good reason.

            I’m sure this thread will help lots of people find out they cant add milk. Perhaps there will be some new members. At the very least, it gets the forum traffic up a bit, repeating the same thing over and over, even if it is ad nauseam.

              chlorox Ageed, but as no one at Decent seems concerned and as the actual claims were so broad and so weak, I strongly suspect the troll is no longer an issue.

                FadedFrontiers

                I never said I didn’t see the need or rather desirability. I said that a $2,000 single-cup device did not seem sensible.

                Flow, pressure profile, temperature – yes, this is entirely possible on other devices. John Buchkman @ Decent Espresso has pointed this out more than once.

                As for lots of backers; well Timemore and others had their popularity moment too. Barnum was right.

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                  Yep, I went through it with the Streitman CT2. Despite it being an open boiler, saturated group, I was convinced that I would be able to add milk in there and somehow steam it. I thought the designer and all the other users had missed a trick. I was also shocked to find a lot more people I never knew started visiting me, and they all loved coffee. They all had keys to the house, invited themselves in, and demanded lattes or cappuccinos, before even sitting down. The cheek of it! I never knew a coffee machine purchase could be so fraught with brazenly hidden unknowns. Those darn influencers don’t tell you these things!

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                    dutchy101

                    So, they do t want beginners purchasing then…..

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                    The Meticulous Espresso uses a digital motor and high-precision sensors to automatically make espresso, allowing anyone, from experienced baristas to home coffee enthusiasts, to achieve control over the brewing process"

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                      dutchy101

                      It was starting to look interesting and then this happened …..

                      Oh no!!

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                        still think its dodgy given the history of the maker, maybe they will sell some who knows

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