Which means the zero point for espresso will be out

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    Hi Dave thank you for such a detailed and quick response.

    I have already purchased a Duo & my interest is more about the potential versatility of it, so this does sound (potentially) very positive!

    Reading about the Duo online I do wonder if more would be interested on the basis if it turns out to be good for changing between different espresso burrs. Having two easily interchangeable espresso sets would be a big positive for me (rather than 1 filter and 1 espresso).

      as far as im aware the only difference in the two burr carriers is the colour.

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        Cuprajake Which means the zero point for espresso will be out

        It certainly will, but whenever you put new burrs on the carrier, you would have to find the Zero point and the best position of the 3 possible positions of the top burr carrier (nicknamed the “sweet spot”)

        Cuprajake as far as im aware the only difference in the two burr carriers is the colour.

        Yes, the actual metal carriers are identical.

        Thor Reading about the Duo online I do wonder if more would be interested on the basis if it turns out to be good for changing between different espresso burrs. Having two easily interchangeable espresso sets would be a big positive for me (rather than 1 filter and 1 espresso).

        I suspect many people will use the carriers in exactly that way e.g. HU SSPs for certain coffees and Mazzer Espresso for others. This is because the HU SSPs are not always better, or to put it another way, often worse.

        Sadly the influencers and some forceful forum users on HB seem more interested in negging on pricing issues (or simply not reading the manual, rather than looking at the positive points. Or the fact that it doesn’t stall (or as some euphemistically put it for another competing grinder, “it’s not a stall it’s a safety cutout”). You won’t see many grinders able to do this…almost none. It’s from a standing start too, not running while dropping beans in.

        DavecUK Dave may I ask what you are using to measure the thickness of the burrs please? A micrometer I guess but are you able to recommend a specific model or features to look for?

        I use this Tom, lots of fakes about, so buy from a reputable source or direct. I have their depth gauges and callipers as well. My dads old imperial stuff was Mitutoyo as well. They do have much more expensive ones costing 1000s, but mine is guaranteed to +/-2 Micron and that’s all I need

        https://shop.mitutoyo.co.uk/web/mitutoyo/en_GB/mitutoyo/1305876921890/Digital%20Micrometer/$catalogue/mitutoyoData/PR/293-821-30/index.xhtml

        P.S. If you do buy one be careful of a few things (not sure it’s in manual, but any good engineer knows this….as you can see my jaws are not fully closed, this is so changes in temperature don’t strain anything. Micrometers must never be stored with the jaws fully closed.

        Also when measuring, try and hold by the plastic with your left hand, this minimises the temperature effects as they might warm up and avoid handling the workpiece too much. The older style engineers 1 handed usage works, but for best accuracy avoid touching more metal than you have to.

          DavecUK super helpful. Especially appreciate the time you’ve taken with the tips.

          DavecUK
          Tool porn!
          My needs rarely go beyond a good set of Vernier calipers.
          I am a lefty and only just discovered left handed verniers( I usually have to read them upside down).
          They aren’t made for we lefties but for convenient measuring on lathes.

          DavecUK managed to find the same brand here in Australia. Nothing like a trusted referral, especially one that’s handed down from two generations of British engineers! Thanks again.

            DavecUK a bit pricey compared to Ali Express of course but I’m interested in accurately measuring in microns so there is no point in buying anything other than a proven reliable product. I’ve bought a lot from AE but not with something like this.

            My Vernier’s are Mitutoyo (not digital) and my micrometer is Moore & Wright (another really good make, don’t know if they are still in business though as i’ve had mine a while

            7 days later

            Checked their website yesterday and found the UK variant is now sold out. The EU and AUS are not.

            I also noticed that, according to their description, the only difference between those models is the plug type.

            Which make me wonder… why don’t they use a kettle type cord? Surely that would make life a lot simpler? It seems to be a great positive point for coffee machines, so why not grinders?

            you couldnt wind that up inside the grinder then though, could always wire a fresh plug on

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              Cuprajake - but is it a problem? We don’t have that ”feature” for coffee machines, and often they are sited side by side.

              for consumer no, for manufacturer yeah lol, they would have to totally re design the grinder round it. i for one hate wires showing

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                Cuprajake - well… they had that opportunity with the Duo 😉

                So, for me, I have the opposite problem: I just wished the cord was 30cm longer. Instead, I have to have it plugged to an extension lead.

                If it had a kettle lead, I could’ve gone to the electrical shop and bought a slightly longer one.

                Wasn’t a problem for my coffee machine because… yes, it has a kettle lead. 😊