Shipping July released today. it could of course be an April fools joke. Albeit a strange one… https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/products/niche-duo?variant=43187239846019

@"Igm45"#p40972 Not an April fools joke….people have ordered.

Some time to launch! 😏 I see from the specs that it's physically bigger than the Zero….assuming this is - at least in part - to house a bigger motor for the flats?

I still believe it's April fool's, too good to be true….

@"[unknown]"#p41017 Have you seen he full manual you can download and read ?

@"MattH"#p41026 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0081/2076/2450/files/N685_INSTRUCTION_BOOK_ROW_83F_1_080323_WEB.pdf?v=1680015642

Two excellent videos from Jake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKdyBJ7TkhU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C90i5RVoBpo

@"DavecUK"#p41257 There are a couple of others there now too. (why does the plug change colour 🤔???)

> @"Del_UK"#p41290 (why does the plug change colour 🤔???) Dunno? RH Lead swaps colour as well in the starting clip

Can I chuck my hat into the ring? Right, first off, this is not an engineering review. I was lucky enough to be asked by Niche back in October, to accept the latest version of the Niche Duo. I had to sign an NDA and that was that. A couple of days later, a package turned up and I thought, I recognise that. On inspecting the packaging, it is quite clearly designed with the Zero experience in mind. The packaging has instructions printed on it for starters. Once you open the outer box, there is a strap/handle to help you lift the inner box meaning that you do not have to tip it upside down to force it out! I received a gleaming white model that arrived with espresso burrs fitted to it. A quick glance through the comprehensive handbook to make sure that there was nothing I needed to be aware of, and coffee here we come! When I dial in a new grinder, I always pull the first shot at whatever it arrives set to and take my reference from there. The third shot was spot on. 16 gms on an espresso setting takes me 16 seconds. I did not suffer from any static, the grounds were nice and fluffy. I believe the burrs originate from Mazzer (both espresso and brewed). Eventually, I thought it was time to try swapping the burrs over. Again, no help from Niche. They selected me as tester for their idiots instructions, and I feel well qualified for that role. I have made a video that I will post and it took me 70 seconds or so to swap over. You raise the lid, unscrew the silver dial, remove the screw to tighten down the top burr set, then remove it. Push down on the bottom burr set and remove. The process is then repeated with the brewed burrs (these are a different colour, blue) in reverse of course. I am deliberately keeping this summary vague! I have no idea as to how they get a big flat to be retention free. Having swapped the burrs over many times, and since access allows with ease, whenever I clean it out the retention is minimal. If I remember I will weigh it at some point but as any Niche Zero owners knows, you learn to trust your machine and just accept the claims! https://youtu.be/63Iv5gUy1JQ https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqlKJZjg_ZPsfdrHkp5cDIoL_KjSXhE5E5st-00/?igshid=Mzc1MmZhNjY=

@"Del_UK"#p41290 because I have a white extension lead, which I took out of the vid 😂

Niche duo - 83mm flat

MattH

MediumRoastSteam Thought shipment was not til July… but as some prod versions are in the wild maybe they are ready early ??

Cuprajake

Nah I doubt it. They won’t ship till they said they would.

dfk41

Must be mixed up! I thought it was June!

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam Buy a bit of black 3 core cable the same diameter and get one of these.

https://amzn.eu/d/aIMMaqO

Or this, might be neater.

Check this out! https://amzn.eu/d/5BF2CH6

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK Check this out! https://amzn.eu/d/5BF2CH6

Ha! Ok. So literally extend the cable.

I have a box of those already. Because… I had to extend a cable for a flood light outside. 😉😊 works wonders. 👍

MediumRoastSteam

Question: for Aeropress, or Moka Pot… in the context of the Niche Duo… would you use filter burrs or espresso burrs?

FadedFrontiers

MediumRoastSteam from my experience with other grinders but using the same principles, you’ll want to do aeropress with filter and moka with espresso, unless you enjoy more body in your aeropress.

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam

Although I don’t brew by either, I would use the filter burrs set, if I get both burrs set.

Both of them typically require coarser grind settings than espresso but finer than V60.

So, nothing prevents some one to brew using both burrs set and see how they compare. I do think the filter burrs set would provide more clarity.

Cuprajake

Less fines with filter burrs

MWJB

Cuprajake Less fines, or a coarser grind? (How would you tell the difference?)

Cuprajake

Only visually bud

Cuprajake

Done a bit more taste testing

JahLaza

Cuprajake 😂😂

DavecUK

Giphy - Frustrated Jim Carrey GIF

Cuprajake @cup

MediumRoastSteam

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 - Ace!

MediumRoastSteam

Another review of the Niche. Just under 20 minutes. A lot of meaningless waffle, not much to take on.

dfk41

MediumRoastSteam I suffered that. For me, I did not enjoy it. Not enough technical teardown and too much opinion. Still, everyone knows I dislike influencers! Still, I was mega impressed that he could cup the difference between a Duo and a Zero

MediumRoastSteam

When he started going on about the motor wattage and couldn’t even elaborate about it, just waffle… I thought yep, just more youtube trash.

Cuprajake

MediumRoastSteam then lance jumped on it in the comments, i dont even want him to review one, as i have a feeling he will rip it to shreds,

the duo does what it says on the tin, the burrs are personal pref!

what pisses me off is they will gladly push the timemore which sound horrid, to the point the 64s cant even burr chirp without nearly stalling!!!

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake Indeed. bad points of the Niche:

The plastic lid… WTF
Wood is not good quality… WTF
The motor is 130W. No substance on the comment. WTF….

Honestly, these people are on a mission. For most of them, I tend to completely ignore what they say. I just like watching the product being used.

Also, I used the Duo at Dave’s before, a few times over the past 18 months if not longer. There was no static. Maybe it’s the environment, I don’t know. And we all know Dave: No nonsense, no RDT, no WDT. Just grind, flip, tamp and pull!

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