Shipping July released today. it could of course be an April fools joke. Albeit a strange one… https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/products/niche-duo?variant=43187239846019

@"Igm45"#p40972 Not an April fools joke….people have ordered.

Some time to launch! 😏 I see from the specs that it's physically bigger than the Zero….assuming this is - at least in part - to house a bigger motor for the flats?

I still believe it's April fool's, too good to be true….

@"[unknown]"#p41017 Have you seen he full manual you can download and read ?

@"MattH"#p41026 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0081/2076/2450/files/N685_INSTRUCTION_BOOK_ROW_83F_1_080323_WEB.pdf?v=1680015642

Two excellent videos from Jake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKdyBJ7TkhU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C90i5RVoBpo

@"DavecUK"#p41257 There are a couple of others there now too. (why does the plug change colour 🤔???)

> @"Del_UK"#p41290 (why does the plug change colour 🤔???) Dunno? RH Lead swaps colour as well in the starting clip

Can I chuck my hat into the ring? Right, first off, this is not an engineering review. I was lucky enough to be asked by Niche back in October, to accept the latest version of the Niche Duo. I had to sign an NDA and that was that. A couple of days later, a package turned up and I thought, I recognise that. On inspecting the packaging, it is quite clearly designed with the Zero experience in mind. The packaging has instructions printed on it for starters. Once you open the outer box, there is a strap/handle to help you lift the inner box meaning that you do not have to tip it upside down to force it out! I received a gleaming white model that arrived with espresso burrs fitted to it. A quick glance through the comprehensive handbook to make sure that there was nothing I needed to be aware of, and coffee here we come! When I dial in a new grinder, I always pull the first shot at whatever it arrives set to and take my reference from there. The third shot was spot on. 16 gms on an espresso setting takes me 16 seconds. I did not suffer from any static, the grounds were nice and fluffy. I believe the burrs originate from Mazzer (both espresso and brewed). Eventually, I thought it was time to try swapping the burrs over. Again, no help from Niche. They selected me as tester for their idiots instructions, and I feel well qualified for that role. I have made a video that I will post and it took me 70 seconds or so to swap over. You raise the lid, unscrew the silver dial, remove the screw to tighten down the top burr set, then remove it. Push down on the bottom burr set and remove. The process is then repeated with the brewed burrs (these are a different colour, blue) in reverse of course. I am deliberately keeping this summary vague! I have no idea as to how they get a big flat to be retention free. Having swapped the burrs over many times, and since access allows with ease, whenever I clean it out the retention is minimal. If I remember I will weigh it at some point but as any Niche Zero owners knows, you learn to trust your machine and just accept the claims! https://youtu.be/63Iv5gUy1JQ https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqlKJZjg_ZPsfdrHkp5cDIoL_KjSXhE5E5st-00/?igshid=Mzc1MmZhNjY=

@"Del_UK"#p41290 because I have a white extension lead, which I took out of the vid 😂

Niche duo - 83mm flat

Amberale

tompoland

Blackwoods?

tompoland

Amberale no couldn’t find the same type as Dave’s on BWs so went with this one which was the closest I could find https://amzn.asia/d/a1zPEPP

Nightrider_1uk

My Vernier’s are Mitutoyo (not digital) and my micrometer is Moore & Wright (another really good make, don’t know if they are still in business though as i’ve had mine a while

MediumRoastSteam

Checked their website yesterday and found the UK variant is now sold out. The EU and AUS are not.

I also noticed that, according to their description, the only difference between those models is the plug type.

Which make me wonder… why don’t they use a kettle type cord? Surely that would make life a lot simpler? It seems to be a great positive point for coffee machines, so why not grinders?

Cuprajake

you couldnt wind that up inside the grinder then though, could always wire a fresh plug on

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake - but is it a problem? We don’t have that ”feature” for coffee machines, and often they are sited side by side.

Cuprajake

for consumer no, for manufacturer yeah lol, they would have to totally re design the grinder round it. i for one hate wires showing

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake - well… they had that opportunity with the Duo 😉

So, for me, I have the opposite problem: I just wished the cord was 30cm longer. Instead, I have to have it plugged to an extension lead.

If it had a kettle lead, I could’ve gone to the electrical shop and bought a slightly longer one.

Wasn’t a problem for my coffee machine because… yes, it has a kettle lead. 😊

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam You could simply extend the cable…I’m with Jake, I like only pulling out the necessary amount of cable.

Del_UK

MediumRoastSteam

A wire directly connected/soldered to the unit takes up less space than a plug/socket arrangement also.

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK You could simply extend the cable

How? - it’s currently fully extended.

dfk41

I wonder if it is nearly time for those who ordered their Duo’s to start to keep an eye on the Postman?

MediumRoastSteam

dfk41 - exactly my thoughts.

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam Buy a bit of black 3 core cable the same diameter and get one of these.

https://amzn.eu/d/aIMMaqO

Or this, might be neater.

Check this out! https://amzn.eu/d/5BF2CH6

MattH

MediumRoastSteam Thought shipment was not til July… but as some prod versions are in the wild maybe they are ready early ??

Cuprajake

Nah I doubt it. They won’t ship till they said they would.

dfk41

Must be mixed up! I thought it was June!

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK Check this out! https://amzn.eu/d/5BF2CH6

Ha! Ok. So literally extend the cable.

I have a box of those already. Because… I had to extend a cable for a flood light outside. 😉😊 works wonders. 👍

MediumRoastSteam

Question: for Aeropress, or Moka Pot… in the context of the Niche Duo… would you use filter burrs or espresso burrs?

FadedFrontiers

MediumRoastSteam from my experience with other grinders but using the same principles, you’ll want to do aeropress with filter and moka with espresso, unless you enjoy more body in your aeropress.

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam

Although I don’t brew by either, I would use the filter burrs set, if I get both burrs set.

Both of them typically require coarser grind settings than espresso but finer than V60.

So, nothing prevents some one to brew using both burrs set and see how they compare. I do think the filter burrs set would provide more clarity.

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