FadedFrontiers Yet on another thread about Timemore, Meticulous etc on the other hand then people pile on a lot worse and it’s fine.

The big difference is that people don’t tolerate a pile on as much if they already own the kit in question. Human nature.

Didn’t see your reply as its been edited to add more, if you want to add more just add a fresh post or stuff easy gets missed, one of my biggest bug bear with forums is posts being edited to add more then it’s missed or stuff gets taken out of context.

Niche seem to have backed down due to public demand for a single burr option, which is a shame really as it makes a mockery of the name of the product now, the one burr duo 🤷

Attack is a strong word re the other subject, if you mean people are quite rightly worried about the amount of money sunk into something like the meticulous then fair do but it’s not an attack.

There was a post like this recently which prompted me to create poles asking what grinders people use

https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/1724-whats-your-grinder

50% of the 60 votes use a niche, so your going to get more natural bias towards that product.

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    Cuprajake which is a shame really as it makes a mockery of the name of the product now, the one burr duo

    I struggle to understand this Jake, no offence. If prospective customers are voicing their frustration about dual burr sets, (yep, some of us don’t care about filter coffee that much!) do you believe it’s wrong they listened? Maybe they should have added a marketing spin on the name of the product and called it the “Uno” or whatever their marketing department comes up with but doing nothing could’ve been a launch disaster for them.

    In my humble opinion, the price change to remove VAT was the biggest one. I bet people would have ignored the dual burr option and would have bought the grinder regardless. But I think it’s great they listened to their prospective customers - potentially now actual customers - and got things right in the end.

    Non taken, just seems a shame they went down that route for a couple years only to back track immediately.

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      And it’s still a duo as it can take two sets of burrs for different brew types, I’m not aware that other grinders that are designed specifically that way?

      Cuprajake

      I think it shows Niche to be a very good business who listen to their customers. There have been many products made in the past (outside of coffee) that are based on lots of research, testing and focus groups but still end up a massive flop. Niche listened and immediately responded so fair play to them in my eyes. Being stubborn doesn’t make good business sense, being pragmatic does.

      Im not coming from a business point of view more a design artis side of things, agree niche acted correctly with both the vat and single burr option, just a shame to me that’s all, it’s not a big deal ❤️

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      Cuprajake just seems a shame they went down that route for a couple years only to back track immediately

      You can see it as back tracking, but you can also see it as moving forward. Many products (think phones, for example) offer different versions so people can have a choice. Niche had one new product, now they have three versions of it. More offerings = more sale options. I think that’s the best move they could make, and while doing it also get applause for listening, being agile, doing the right thing etc. How can forcing people who will only use one burr set into buying a second set (to justify a name…) be a better idea?

      Just my opinion move on please

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      Cuprajake just seems a shame they went down that route for a couple years only to back track

      You might think they went down the route for a couple of years. In reality, it was for a couple of weeks, as customers only knew of the product once it was released.

      Edit: didn’t see your last reply and the few before. Moving on. 👍