FadedFrontiers if the Duo’s motor can handle it what’s the issue with other users swapping burrs out if they want. Niche may as well sell carriers as there’s already some demand for them. I thought there was a risk of future untested burrs causing problems like with the GG and NZ but that seems unlikely.

I think you will only get an answer to that question from Niche. Most manufacturers of things, don’t like aftermarket parts being installed for various reasons…something only the manufacturer can answer, if they choose to do so. On here, any discussion as to rationale is simply going to be speculation.

As for what users do or don’t want to fit, it’s entirely down to them….after all, it’s their grinder, their money and their choice

FadedFrontiers Niche can not recommend swapping to other burrs and also sell a spare carrier, win win for them.

Not quite sure what this means, do you mean “now” rather than “not”. gain thought, I am sure they will welcome your suggestions on how they can get a win/win.

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        DavecUK no, they can plausibly do both - not recommend you swap them out but also sell additional carriers for those wishing to take the risk.

        Anyway we are all in agreement, I wasn’t speculating about their rationale I was just saying what’s the big deal if people want to change burrs. I wouldn’t do it but no need to go after others who have different tastes or preferences with burrs, even if you personally think it’s a waste of money.

        DavecUK I am sure they will welcome your suggestions on how they can get a win/win.

        Maybe if they didn’t actually (rightly) backtrack and listen to the feedback regarding selling a single burr version and the VAT charges before then that flippant suggestion would have landed better 😆 again I think most are in agreement that was the correct thing to do and it’s good Niche listened, except anyone still committed to Niche’s original decision in the first place.

        I can understand the siege mentality about Niche when there’s a lot of forums that now seem to dislike anything it does for no good reason, but I don’t think there’s anyone on here with an agenda. There’s been good faith suggestions like ‘oh it would be good if they sell a single burr version/fix vat/sell spare burr carriers, etc.’ and it gets treated like it’s an unreasonable attack on the company. Yet on another thread about Timemore, Meticulous etc on the other hand then people pile on a lot worse and it’s fine.

              FadedFrontiers Yet on another thread about Timemore, Meticulous etc on the other hand then people pile on a lot worse and it’s fine.

              The big difference is that people don’t tolerate a pile on as much if they already own the kit in question. Human nature.

                Didn’t see your reply as its been edited to add more, if you want to add more just add a fresh post or stuff easy gets missed, one of my biggest bug bear with forums is posts being edited to add more then it’s missed or stuff gets taken out of context.

                Niche seem to have backed down due to public demand for a single burr option, which is a shame really as it makes a mockery of the name of the product now, the one burr duo 🤷

                Attack is a strong word re the other subject, if you mean people are quite rightly worried about the amount of money sunk into something like the meticulous then fair do but it’s not an attack.

                There was a post like this recently which prompted me to create poles asking what grinders people use

                https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/1724-whats-your-grinder

                50% of the 60 votes use a niche, so your going to get more natural bias towards that product.

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                  Cuprajake which is a shame really as it makes a mockery of the name of the product now, the one burr duo

                  I struggle to understand this Jake, no offence. If prospective customers are voicing their frustration about dual burr sets, (yep, some of us don’t care about filter coffee that much!) do you believe it’s wrong they listened? Maybe they should have added a marketing spin on the name of the product and called it the “Uno” or whatever their marketing department comes up with but doing nothing could’ve been a launch disaster for them.

                  In my humble opinion, the price change to remove VAT was the biggest one. I bet people would have ignored the dual burr option and would have bought the grinder regardless. But I think it’s great they listened to their prospective customers - potentially now actual customers - and got things right in the end.

                    Non taken, just seems a shame they went down that route for a couple years only to back track immediately.

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                      And it’s still a duo as it can take two sets of burrs for different brew types, I’m not aware that other grinders that are designed specifically that way?

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                      I think it shows Niche to be a very good business who listen to their customers. There have been many products made in the past (outside of coffee) that are based on lots of research, testing and focus groups but still end up a massive flop. Niche listened and immediately responded so fair play to them in my eyes. Being stubborn doesn’t make good business sense, being pragmatic does.

                        Im not coming from a business point of view more a design artis side of things, agree niche acted correctly with both the vat and single burr option, just a shame to me that’s all, it’s not a big deal ❤️

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                        Cuprajake just seems a shame they went down that route for a couple years only to back track immediately

                        You can see it as back tracking, but you can also see it as moving forward. Many products (think phones, for example) offer different versions so people can have a choice. Niche had one new product, now they have three versions of it. More offerings = more sale options. I think that’s the best move they could make, and while doing it also get applause for listening, being agile, doing the right thing etc. How can forcing people who will only use one burr set into buying a second set (to justify a name…) be a better idea?

                          Just my opinion move on please

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                          Cuprajake just seems a shame they went down that route for a couple years only to back track

                          You might think they went down the route for a couple of years. In reality, it was for a couple of weeks, as customers only knew of the product once it was released.

                          Edit: didn’t see your last reply and the few before. Moving on. 👍