DavecUK I believe (could be wrong) they use 2 vibe pumps, one for the brew thermoblock and one for the steam one

My understanding Dave is they use two vibe pumps in order to dynamically mix hot and cold water to the specific temperature required for the profile. This allows accurate temperature profiling as the vibe pumps can pump very small increments of water if needed, and allows it to compensate for cooler coffee/ambient temp etc. They have a separate heater for brew and steam functions.

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      Amazing what can be done with a Decent. First it was espresso (of course), then it was the tea portailter and now a pour over basket compliments of the extraordinay duo of Scott Rao and Jonathan Gagnes. Assuming that it works well (I harbour a wee bit of doubt depite those illustrious names), the benefits of this machine just continue to get better and better. I have ordered the basket, I’ll have a play and report back.

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        DavecUK that’s right. A lot of people get really hung up on this issue, which I find weird! If I’m manually profiling or reviewing the graphs I don’t don’t have enough hands or brain space to steam at the same time. I’ve heard similar from Bianca users who profile regularly, there’s too much going on! In a commercial setting, this would be a big downside. The thing is you’d have two DE1s for commercial use anyway as you’d want two groups, which allows concomitant steaming and brewing.

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          tompoland Yes I get your point. People shouldn’t get too hung up on the idea of a rotary pump anyway. Check the Diaspora for ‘Bengle’ John has already posted pictures of the new machine.

              Redla John has already posted pictures of the new machine.

              It’s like the Nurri machine and the DE1 had a child. 😉

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                the Bengle is not a new machine, it was a new design concept that’s since been dropped (around two years ago from memory, which is rarely a good idea in my case) . A possible aesthetic upgrade if you will.

                That’s the last I heard of it but someone may have news of its pending resurrection?

                    tompoland It’s not been dropped, beta testing should take place this year according to Johns update in April.

                        tompoland I said I’d provide an update on Lance’s variable pour times with his Decent.

                        Reading more craefully through the relevant thread in Diaspora, I think my theory about Lance’s discrepancies with pour times being attributed to running a 110v machine in Europe with a voltage converter is at best without foundation.

                        I’ve run out of ideas for explaining his experience but I note there was not even one “me too” post in the thread which surprised me a bit given that as @JammyDodger mentioned, thoroughness of puck prep is a significant variable on its own.

                        Must be annoying for Lance.

                          Redla thanks for that update. Do you know what’s new about it other than the exterior design?

                          Found this which is probably what I vaguely recalled:

                              tompoland answering my own question and thanks @Redla for bringing me up to date.

                              As best I can tell it looks like mostly the same internals but a very different exterior (white metal and timber) and featuring an integrated scale, a cup warmer, 2 minute warm up time (not for the 110v version), lighting for the espresso cup area and a Samsung A7 tablet. All welcome improvements but nothing earth shattering enough to motivate me to upgrade.

                              Maybe if it looked like this?

                                From reading he wants to go commercial and do all the services etc. Not sure if true or not

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                                The Bengle wil be safety certified for commercial use. The other models are not.

                                dfk41 The whole influencer thing is a joke to begin with. Honestly who cares what others find works for them when every setup will vary in a different environment, various coffees being used, etc… If the social media garbage didn’t pay out in some way most of the videos would never exist as that’s the primary reason for it regardless of what some wanna claim.

                                One in particular was a product pimp for Breville, which is junk… as well as Baratza at one point, more junk… as well as Onxy Coffee which is over priced/hyped crap.

                                  tompoland Extraordinary duo, bwahaha… Seems Gagne might be trying to incorporate a bit much on the scientific end and IMBHO coffee (especially espresso) is the same as roasting in that it’s ⅓ skill, ⅓ art form and ⅓ science. Maybe he should stick with boring astrophysics as coffee is far more involved!

                                  Regarding Rao, never been impressed with his style of roasting or arrogance… to each their own obviously as I’ll never get caught up following the typical (usually short lived) fad.

                                  Regarding the Decent as the thread suggests, maybe one day they will actually get the thing maxed out and performing to the claimed/expected standards. Never used one and have no intention, but what I’ve read from plenty of users is it’s more of a jack of all trades, but clearly master of none.

                                      JonWoo187 Never used one and have no intention

                                      Yes I find this the best of all ways to form a reasoned opinion.

                                      Joking aside, surely we are better on this forum than just regurgitating whatever third-hand information has slopped into our echo chamber? Let’s keep on topic.

                                      Decent DE1 • Mazzer Philos

                                        Something has been happening recently on another forum, and similar has happened in the past from the same manufacturer. Where a customer has not only been treated shabbily, but the manufacturer has gone out of their way to blame the customer. This prompted me to say…the Decent sales experience seems a good one, John works very hard to ensure customer satisfaction.

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                                        Yeah I don’t mind john as a manufacturer, very open and honest, always looking to improve and the decent vids are some of the best manufacturer vids out there, lelit insider is another good channel

                                        I find it odd more manufacturer dont do it.

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