Knock off Chinese grinders

dfk41

Will anyone own up to having something like this? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007165634683.html

Very attractively priced but Chinese engineering can be very good, or very bad. It seems a lot to sink in to a possible dog.

JimmyP

dfk41 Good question. I look at WW HG-1 copy and wonder if performance would be the same? Even WW admit that the long grinding shaft is not necessarily aligned unless beans are in the chamber 🤔

profesor_historia

Jesus wept, I would pass

JimmyP

profesor_historia Why’s that? 🤔

profesor_historia

JimmyP I like to be on the safe side in general

giampiero

Like dfk41 said, it’s a gambling.

IMO if they can produce good quality, i still don’t understand why they need to be so shameless copying the appearances, for me is already a no no…..i’m against the doping🤣

DavecUK

If the zeitgeist around Chinese grinders is correct, than whether it’s a Timore 78, DF whatever etc.. Then it shouldn’t matter any more and the knock offs might be brilliant, they just haven’t used an influencer to shill them.

giampiero

DavecUK They always play in a price window, that, especially 3 years ago once the first DF was launched, was not so difficult to take the risk, but at such price tag, i would like to have a closer look before to only think to buy it.

JimmyP

DavecUK I bought V1 DF64 off the back of your review. Does that make you an influencer? 🤔

dfk41

£937.47 for the conical version, plus £95.25 carriage plus vat and import duties comes t about £2280. That is a gig gamble as it will be worthless if it has problems. I just guesstimated figures but agree am £1000 out!

DavecUK

dfk41 £937.47 for the conical version, plus £95.25 carriage plus vat and import duties comes t about £2280. That is a gig gamble as it will be worthless if it has problems

About £1315 actually

HarveyMushman

Where are Kafatek grinders made?

Is there a chance with some of these ‘knockoffs’ that they’re actually just the exact same grinders just without the branding applied?

MWJB

HarveyMushman No, Kafatek are made in Seattle by Denis Basaric.

profesor_historia

HarveyMushman this would be very serious

HarveyMushman

Right, not suggesting it’s happening and clearly not with products made in the US but just wondered if there are cases like the supermarket own brand foods sometimes made by the same factories making branded goods etc.

Adrianmsmith

@dfk41

to put that in to perspective, thats what i paid for my Craig Lyn HG-1 Prime, with import duties etc

Genuine purchase of the genuine product

This isn’t a moan as I don’t think I will ever sell the prime (Key is still for sale BTW)

The service from Craig Lyn was second to none.

Id be really interested to hear from anyone regarding the flat burr grinder on Davids original post here.

Is it called Lucky store for a reason? who will be the Lucky party, us or the store!!

I wonder also if Denis will be taking legal action as they are clearly suggesting its a Kafatek, which to us it obviously is not.

Adrianmsmith

JimmyP

Do you have a link please to Daves DF64 review … not seen that one yet……

MediumRoastSteam

Adrianmsmith - https://coffeeequipmentreviews.wordpress.com/

Take your pick… 👍

Adrianmsmith

MediumRoastSteam

Thank you.

(I forgot there was life before YouTube 🥰)

Will have a read….. Interesting to see how it compared to my df-83.

Unfortunately that was pants 🫠

dfk41

MediumRoastSteam Is the review for a DF grinder or just a.n. other Chinese one?

MediumRoastSteam

dfk41 - Errr…. Did you click the link? That’s Dave’s review page. As far as I know, that’s the first DF64 (Or Solo 64mm as marketed by BB).