Where’s your palate at?
JimmyP I have said that I don’t think, cupping specifically (a vague term in reality, if a very specific term in terms of a diagnostic exercise) will help. I have been trying to assist @dfk41 in his search for a different perspective on coffee since before this forum existed. I am as keen as anyone to see if he is able to adjust his appreciation of coffee beyond his catchphrase of, “sink it, or drink it”. I have no agenda in terms of convincing him he is ‘wrong’ in any way, because even (I think) if he is, such an attitude will, quite understandably, result in vociferous resistance, as it is condescending and patronising.
You say you are a, “paid taster” I don’t doubt this, but I do doubt that you are a paid coffee brewer & a paid coffee taster (because everyone who tastes coffee in the course of a day at work is usually one, or the other, but almost never both).
if you are paid to present coffee cuppings, tell us what your protocol is, in detail (e.g. how you ensure the SCAA/Agtron requirements).
If you are a paid taster, tell us what the pre-made coffee beverage is that we can purchase widely, taste with you & compare notes/perceptions.
Are you going to partake in Hoffmann’s decaf tasting event? (Both myself & @dfk41 are.)
Basically, give us something tangible before we all run out of patience with your attitude.
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I do not understand why people will have to get personal. It is sad actually.
JimmyP I’ve searched and forgive me if I missed it, but I don’t see any posts where you have shared your experiences of how to taste more in your coffee? You have critiqued everybody else’s comments but contributed little in the way of knowledge.
If you can actually “help” people that’s a primary focus of this forum and the main reason I am here.
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@JimmyP Please show, share and educate us with what you have got in your bag. You may start with why cupping is a great way to improve one’s palate. Please don’t be generic in your response, tell us how ? Videos, experiences, answers to MWJB’s queries and step by step process to get there are what you may require. Please be prepared as some extremely knowledgeable members will challenge you; and, you may challenge their practice, techniques than going personal. Otherwise, please give it a rest.
Enjoy your coffee. 👍
JimmyP Folger’s doesn’t cut it, but you do you. I gladly laugh at the mere mention of ‘being trained’ as that’s simply being led to believe what others think is better/different as in being their trained bitch. I taste exactly what I do from my dialed in setup with coffees I choose to roast. My home, my setup, my roaster gives my palate what I prefer and what others choose to pursue makes absolutely no difference in my world.
Ok. I sense a certain amount of discontent here, but I don’t suffer fools gladly!
For those that want to improve their palates I repeat my question of how you do that?
Surely you pay attention when you taste your coffee?
Let’s break that down. What questions do you ask yourself when you taste your coffee 🙂👍
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JimmyP What questions do you ask yourself when you taste your coffee
Do I drink it or do I sink it? The fundamentals here are the type of bean you choose to make coffee from. Unless you have no prep skills at all, then the tweaks you make might improve the drink but if your bean choice is wrong…….
JimmyP It’s a shame you’re so limited. I would be keen to offer help if you hadn’t hurled abuse yesterday
I am tempted to say have some more but that is what you want and I am not feeding you. Once again you have come onto this forum and stirred trouble up. You have not contributed one bit of help to anyone. I suspect even if you offered help to folks, they would not want it matey…..so, what is next then Jimmy?
JimmyP Part of what I’m trying to do here is challenge the unhealthy environment of nerdy blokes talking about their equipment.
I’d prefer you didn’t do that, everyone is entitled to enjoy their coffee in the way they like best. Some like talking about kit, others like the tactile sensation of producing coffee, some like to try new techniques and identify/improve flavours.
It isn’t for you to decide what’s unhealthy or nerdy, or insult people, and to try to do so, simply makes you a troll in the eyes of others. So you won’t get your message across whatever it is, as people won’t engage with it..
JimmyP Dude, I TOTALLY understand everything that affects my everyday and at the end of the day that’s all that counts. ‘Improve/better’ are opinion and not much else. I definitely find the craze over equipment and burr blindness to be hilarious to say the least, but we are all entitled to do what WE like.
You mention some don’t focus on the coffee itself, but I DEFINITELY do as that’s by far the most important part of the variable equation, with water balance being a somewhat close second. My main focus is green selection/roast development to get exactly the taste notes/texture I strongly prefer with espresso. No equipment change regardless of type/cost will ever come close to matching changes I can make with the coffee itself.
You can keep barking up the wrong tree, but clearly that dog can’t/won’t hunt, bwahaha.