Where’s your palate at?

JimmyP @DavecUK ban this troublemaker please.

JimmyP I’ve searched and forgive me if I missed it, but I don’t see any posts where you have shared your experiences of how to taste more in your coffee? You have critiqued everybody else’s comments but contributed little in the way of knowledge.

If you can actually “help” people that’s a primary focus of this forum and the main reason I am here.

JimmyP Folger’s doesn’t cut it, but you do you. I gladly laugh at the mere mention of ‘being trained’ as that’s simply being led to believe what others think is better/different as in being their trained bitch. I taste exactly what I do from my dialed in setup with coffees I choose to roast. My home, my setup, my roaster gives my palate what I prefer and what others choose to pursue makes absolutely no difference in my world.

JimmyP It’s a shame you’re so limited. I would be keen to offer help if you hadn’t hurled abuse yesterday

I am tempted to say have some more but that is what you want and I am not feeding you. Once again you have come onto this forum and stirred trouble up. You have not contributed one bit of help to anyone. I suspect even if you offered help to folks, they would not want it matey…..so, what is next then Jimmy?

JimmyP Part of what I’m trying to do here is challenge the unhealthy environment of nerdy blokes talking about their equipment.

I’d prefer you didn’t do that, everyone is entitled to enjoy their coffee in the way they like best. Some like talking about kit, others like the tactile sensation of producing coffee, some like to try new techniques and identify/improve flavours.

It isn’t for you to decide what’s unhealthy or nerdy, or insult people, and to try to do so, simply makes you a troll in the eyes of others. So you won’t get your message across whatever it is, as people won’t engage with it..

JimmyP Dude, I TOTALLY understand everything that affects my everyday and at the end of the day that’s all that counts. ‘Improve/better’ are opinion and not much else. I definitely find the craze over equipment and burr blindness to be hilarious to say the least, but we are all entitled to do what WE like.

You mention some don’t focus on the coffee itself, but I DEFINITELY do as that’s by far the most important part of the variable equation, with water balance being a somewhat close second. My main focus is green selection/roast development to get exactly the taste notes/texture I strongly prefer with espresso. No equipment change regardless of type/cost will ever come close to matching changes I can make with the coffee itself.

You can keep barking up the wrong tree, but clearly that dog can’t/won’t hunt, bwahaha.

MWJB

I wasn’t expecting that.

JimmyP For those that want to improve their palates I repeat my question of how you do that?
Surely you pay attention when you taste your coffee?
Let’s break that down. What questions do you ask yourself when you taste your coffee 🙂👍

Tbh, I had thought the intent of your first post on this thread of yours was good.

Please ask these questions yourself, which I am sure you had, and lead from the front.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! 👍

For what my opinion is worth, which I grant you is not much. I have told you sort of where my palate is at, and that is not very, if at all attuned to the tasting notes given out by roasters for their beans. So, as I have not in your mind (I hope) been a bit nasty or sarcastic to you in my response, how about you enlightening me how (apart from just cupping) I can go about improving my palate? You say you have been trained to improve yours, so what is the secret? What did the training involve? Can it be replicated in a non-professional home environment? And if that is possible, what references would there be for me to know it has improved?

So, there you have it, straight down the line. I have told you where my palate is at.

I love ‘real’ coffee, and I am disappointed I cannot appreciate all the nuances it has to offer that others can, because my palate is that of a Neanderthal. I AM eager to learn, as I know are most people on here, regardless of what you think… So, teach us. Give us something to try and respond to. The one thing about most good teachers, is that they want to pass on their knowledge. Not keep it to themselves and mock those less informed.