Agreed - what makes it a 3 grand grinder.. I am all ears !
Lagom P100
Looking forward to it Dave!
Will be an interesting read.
I would be interested in the workflow and the day to day feeling of using it, lots of these big flat burrs seem almost indistinguishable apart from how easy they are to use. The taste is ultimately subjective especially if you prefer darker roasts, when it seems to be the p100 is pushed more towards very light roasts
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Thanks Dave I’d be most interested in your impressions of the grinder’s abilities in regard to espresso versus filter. I’ve read comments that suggest it’s a lot better for the latter versus the former.
I would certainly be interested in your review. It looks like a great grinder that I’ll never buy😅
It is the cheapest of the 98mm single dosing titan grinders, so I would be greatly interested in a review of the p100 even if I probably will never be able to justify buying such an expensive grinder to myself.
Ek43s is cheaper, not technically a sd byou can take the hopper off , there’s also the pk100 but that’s now £k
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When the world is already moving to the 01, I am somewhat behind the curve but I just found a fairly new used P100 with ssp HU burrs in what looks like as new condition selling at a decent price, and though it was more than I ever thought I would pay for a grinder, I bit the bullet and bought it. It does have the ssp hu burrs which were the ones I wanted particularly to try as I wanted more clarity and flavour separation torn light roasts than what I am getting from my ssp 64mm equipped df64 so in the end curiosity won over budget concerns…
I have just had my first latte made from what it ground. It isn’t a fair test to make a milk coffee from its grinds but i think i can already tell more flavour nuances than from my ssp lab sweet cast 64mm equipped df64. I am looking forward to exploring what it can do.
In terms of its fit and finish, it is shockingly heavy for its size and look like it was carved out of a billet of aluminium. Even the blind filter cup is massive. As a result it screams quality everywhere you see on it. I am not sure I understand lance hedrick’s criticisms of it as o have not noticed the issues he found with the one he tested on mine so far. Even the dial indicator ring seems solidly stuck in place!
The workflow is so easy and fast compared to the df64 - no rdt, turn on auto button, just drop in beans, it auto purges, then use the neat clicker a couple of times. As I tend to shake the dosing cup eith the grinds without bothering with wdt nowadays, it is ideal for my methods that the p100 comes with that aforementioned massive blind filter cup. Although it’s 58mm, I use a small funnel with my 54mm portafilter anyway so no issues.
The motor is very quiet and the grinding seems much less loud vs the df64 with the ssp. I have always hated using bellows on grinders and I am glad the p100 doesn’t require it. When I tested it with the seller, the grinder produced grinds that weighed exactly the same as the beans I fed into it. I will weigh my shots in upcoming uses of this grinder to see how the retention in actual use is but i am confident it should be minimal.
Personally I think the p100 looks better design wise than the 01. In fact among its 98mm btethren, i would say i prefer its looks to all of its competitors in that range except perhaps the titus nautilus though the look of the latter is spoiled by its massive power brick. The p100 is a very impressive looking grinder but despite its heft and size, it tends to somehow look unobtrusive- perhaps due to its silvery matte colour that somehow does not draw the eye as much.
Let’s just say I am pleased as punch with this grinder so far!
chlorox Nothing better than enjoying the fruit of an expensive purchase! Good luck with it matey!
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Thanks. I am looking forward to making more shots later today with the p100 doing the grinding duties to take it through its paces.
I recall you were looking to invest in a monolith max 2 or another 98mm grinder. Did you end up going ahead on it? I have to say the gap in prices from 64mm to 98mm is quite vast to the point that the ROI doesn’t seem to add up. If it weren’t for this grinder being available for sale used at a good price (for a 98mm), I wouldn’t have gotten one new.
chlorox Like you, I just think the prices for a new grinder of this type are exorbitant. It is not that I cannot afford one, more a case that to get the ‘extra’ benefit I am struggling to make myself! If a well looked after used one became available then I would more than likely buy it. I have one of those adjustable speed Solo T 64’s with the SSP burrs. It is nearly run in and I have decided to use it exclusively for the moment. I have tried it side by side with the Niche Zero and am trying to convince myself! Life has shown me, that anything is possible!
You hit the nail on the head on the costs. Sadly once price levels are set, they don’t tend to go down as new entrants want the benefit of the existing price threshold. What is needed is a disruptor to come in and upend the industry with a 98mm grinder that is appreciably cheaper but yet as good as the existing 98mm grinders, but that may not happen for a while yet because 98mm is stil a fairly small market and the 64mm market is still where the sweet spot seems to be for the home coffee enthusiast.
chlorox What is needed is a disruptor to come in and upend the industry with a 98mm grinder that is appreciably cheaper but yet as good as the existing 98mm grinders,
It still wouldn’t work though, because of the potential customer base.
Dunno people are paying a grand for a philos
1200-1300 98mm would sell. Shame the burrs are 400
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