@"DavecUK"#p12737 Thanks Dave.. interesting because it occurrs to me the Vesuvius plus a bluetooth connection and the right programming would be the perfect synthesis of build quality (ECM) innovation (Decent) all wrapped in a traditional E61 style body. Can you convince @"Paolo_Cortese"#90 to update it? I love mine, which I bought second hand largely on the basis of your reviews; its taken me a year but I think I've finally got the hang of it!

@"Grahamsphillips"#p13074 I'd put an order in for one of those!

> @"Grahamsphillips"#p13074 Can you convince [@Paolo_Cortese](https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/Paolo_Cortese) to update it? It would mean losing that lovely old, but proven super reliable main board…..

hi, could some one with a vesuvius with the wood/metal handle please email off my sig

I have a wooden handled bottomless pf (generic) that I bought for my Elizabeth then a barista pro IMS basket in it. Will this IMS basket fit the supplied bottomless pf that comes with the Vesuvius?

So, my Vesuvius arrived today. I didn’t want to start another thread and this looked like the most appropriate place to discuss my first day! It left Italy last Friday and arrived in my house today - 6 days, yipee! Mine was definitely used, the plastic was gone from it, there was dirt here and there, spilled water underneath the water tank and for some reason the pipes going onto the tank had a black residue of some sort on parts of them. The panel on top of the machine, where the cup test sits is pretty badly finished with dirty plastic covering it but doesn’t bother me. I didn’t pay for a brand new machine I guess!! Assembling was easy as the provided guide is comprehensive (remember the first thing you do is unscrew the four screws on the top of the side panels, no hammer or anything required) The Teflon furniture gliders I pre purchased are perfect for moving it around on the counter top. A bag of felt pads come with the machine. I put 1L through the group 200ml at a time with at least 15 seconds in between. I then emptied the service boiler twice as per manual. I noticed the shower screen had coffee on it so I soaked that in puly caff and gave a good wash. At this stage I only had time to pull 4 shots as I had to leave! I was close to dialled in by the fourth albeit a bit long but I took it with me in the car- I have to say it was very very nice. So I look forward to playing with it tomorrow. I thought I had a dodgy touch screen as it didn’t seem to respond some times but apparently there are different delay times for different choices on it.. phew..! Looks a stunning machine on the counter and I love the almost totally silent pump. I thought the water reservoir wasn’t the best design but I think I’ll get used to it and won’t have to be refilling it so often when I’m not flushing the system through and just using it to make coffee! It really is a different operation to the Elizabeth but I don’t think it will take long to get used to it. So, I can’t wait to drink coffee from it tomorrow

[upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/cumOEwk.jpeg] I use this type of oil can to fill any of my machines with water.

@"DavecUK"#p13617 I ordered this one by someone’s recommendation on here: https://www.toolstation.com/laser-plastic-measuring-jug/p20428 Seems really ok although the spout is not very flexible

@"DavecUK"#p13617 [URL=https://i.imgur.com/U0mYj3V.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/U0mYj3V.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@"prezes"#p13619 mines very similar and probably on something from nu-man, the image I found seems to have brewers droop.

I used a plastic 2 litre water bottle today!

Vesuvius Pressure Profiling Machine - General Discussion

John_Yossarian

MediumRoastSteam - hey there, any updates on this?

It seems a bit like “what happens in Naples, stays in Naples” 😄.
I hope his machine was sorted out and he is still celebrating this and the New year 😃

Gagaryn

John_Yossarian It seems a bit like “what happens in Naples, stays in Naples”

Kautivo dorme con i pesci :-)

Cuprajake

i was thinking that 😅

MediumRoastSteam

It would be a shame, after all of this discussion, if the outcome isn’t shared. Let’s hope they are all on holiday and they will let us know what the outcome was when they are back.

tocateclas

Hi all, not solved, the machine remains in Naples.

Paolo asked us to remove the gliceur and try to reproduce the problem. I did it and there is no difference in my machine. Service boiler on and hot, there is always a “barrier” during the first seconds at about 1,8-1,9 bars on the screen, that is what makes the pump increasing the speed and overshooting. Service boiler on but under 120º, no problem at all. I have tried it many times and have sent the videos asked to the factory. Removing the gliceur would find out if the problem is related with scale or debris.

kautivo

Hi everybody, exactly as @tocateclas has written the machine is in Naples we are in contact with @Paolo_Cortese sending videos with test without glicer but the machine follow failing!

Dear @DavecUK the valve named as “one way” is the only part shared between both boilers if the pressure in steam boiler is high when we find the fail, Is it possible the problem happen if the valve don’t work right ? What do you think?

In Naples only could see a jump when @Paolo_Cortese removed the glicer but in this case the circuit had air, in the next test the machine didn’t jump the pressure.

Thanks very much!!!

Regards and happy new year for everybody, i hope to find the solution this year!!!

DavecUK

kautivo Dear @DavecUK the valve named as “one way” is the only part shared between both boilers if the pressure in steam boiler is high when we find the fail, Is it possible the problem happen if the valve don’t work right ? What do you think?

It might be that there is am intermittent and momentary leak to the steam boiler (autofill solenoid) when the pump starts, so it speeds up thinking it needs more power to get the pressure. Then the leak stops as the pressure rises and this causes the pressure to peak momentarily (like a water hammer effect) before the pumps PID can respond…once peaked, the peak will take a while to come down as the brew circuit has a lot of resistance due to the puck now being wet.

tocateclas

DavecUK That makes sense. The pump struggles to pass the 2 bars during the preinfussion probably because the autofill valve is not 100% closed, this would explain why this happens only when the service boiler is under pressure. But I already changed this electrovalve so don’t know what to do next…

JahLaza

Is @kautivo’s machine not in Naples? Did Kautivo not fly to Naples to visit ACS factory to investigate the problem with the machine at the factory? The last couple of messages are suggesting not?

kautivo

JahLaza my friend yes i flied to Naples and i visited the factory, Paolo and me tested the machine there several espressos but we only saw something similar the jump of pressure when the glicer was removed but it was because the circuit had air, in the next shots the machine worked right but then we need know the parts changed there because here @AJuar and @tocateclas machines’ continue with the problem even without glicer…

JahLaza

Ah ok, so your machine is working ok now? Air trapped in the circuit caused the issue?

kautivo

JahLaza because when you remove the glicer the water go out of the circuit and in the next shot happen it

DavecUK

tocateclas autofill valve is not 100% closed, this would explain why this happens only when the service boiler is under pressure. But I already changed this electrovalve so don’t know what to do next…

which electro valve exactly did you change (photo please), is it possible the new one has gone faulty, or some loose scale is affecting it?

The steam boiler won’t show the increased pressure, as it reads temp and does the conversion to pressure. However, if you draw steam after this happens, does it come out super strong then die down suddenly.

This only happens when the steam boiler is on correct?

tocateclas

DavecUK

Thanks again,

This one (photo not from my machine):

I changed the whole brass piece, everything but the pressure sensor. Problem was there before changing all these spares.

No, steam is always normal, not super strong. The steam boiler seems to work all right.

It happens when the steam boiler is hot, no matter if it’s on or off.

prezes

Little mod for my Vesuvius . Ordered mirrored Perspex cut to size to serve as a shot mirror.
I think it blends reasonably well with the machine.

Kape17

prezes Hello, do you have the link where to buy the mirror?

John_Yossarian

prezes It looks really good. How did you manage to fix it there? I assume it is removable so you can clean the tray every now and then?

prezes

Kape17 sure, ordered from the shop below. The link will take you to the size in the photo (32cm long x 3cm high). I also ordered 4cm but couldn’t make it fit at right angle.

https://www.perspexsheet.uk/perspex-made-to-measure/?plastic-type=Mirror%20Perspex&colour=Silver%20Mirror&thickness=3%20mm&length=320&width=30

prezes

John_Yossarian I was planning on attaching some foam to support on both sides so it’s stable but flexible. Funnily enough this size just sits perfectly on its own at right angle and doesn’t vibrate or move at all so can be easy removed as and when required

prezes

I need a bit of help. In the last few weeks I noticed a noise starting after the machine is cooling down. Seems to appear when the brew boiler is under 35c and steam under 55c.

It seems to be coming from the hole pictured and stops when I block it with finger. There’s no drip etc.

Any ideas if this is something to worry about ? I’m sure it wasn’t doing this previously.

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