tompoland the small display is very intuitive, In production machines the buttons will be to the left of the display, this makes for easier access to them. Having two displays is an advantage really because if you suddenly want to manually vent the group or do something you actually keeps the two functions completely separate one is the basic or operation of the machine and the other is whether the machine is in auto or manual operation time or pressure.

I have talked to Paulo also about adding an instantanious flow rate per minute for the brew pressure phase, with an average at the end.

At the moment two screens and not really possible to make them into 1, that’s because the lower panel screen is based on Gicar boards and software. The smaller screen is one of some being developed for a larger CAN bus based system for the future. Then you’re single screen and controls will be possible.

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    tompoland

    I have said it before but what a wonderful time to be a coffee aficionado.
    The variety and quality of machines being produced is mind numbing.
    Sort of like motorbikes in the eighties.

        Am I the only one to think, that with these new innovations to furnish both the Vostok and Evo models, that this is going to sound the death knell for machines like the LR24 which is more expensive (expected) and certainly less innovative. The upgrade kits they are selling will be upgrading older machines to something that is still years out of date and cannot move forwards or keep up with the demands of the modern home lever barista. It will also be interesting to see the effects this has on the Nurri which seemed to have been hailed in some quarters as the Evo on steroids. It is hard not to see the Vostok (all group configurations) and Evo setting the new standard. All we need now, is for ACS and Paolo and Dave to turn their eyes to the small lever market where the Italians have a strong history of producing some lovely machines over the years!

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          dfk41 Am I the only one to think, that with these new innovations to furnish both the Vostok and Evo models, that this is going to sound the death knell for machines like the LR24 which is more expensive (expected) and certainly less innovative.

          I am afraid you are oversimplifying how markets work.

          So no, ACS won’t be the only lever espresso supplier in the world, and we will still have non-levers: HX machines, SB, DB, thermoblocks, fully automatics machines, pods machines, E61 groups, saturated group manufactured by hundreds of bigger and smaller companies. And electric cars won’t be manufactured only by Tesla.

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          The pre-infussion timer, this will measure the time, or will be able to “release” the lever in automatic way to start the spring driven extraction under full pressure?

              pjw I know very well how markets work matey! I did not say ACS would ever be the only lever espresso manufacturer in the world. Nor was I comparing the ACS products to traditional lever machines. I was merely making the point that if in computing terms, new technology comes out, then who in their right mind buys something with far less advanced technology (ignoring traditional lever machines).

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                  pjw Just looking at the top of the group, it’s the same as in the current Evo, so there is no way the lever could be released automatically (and to be honest, if that were the case, it would probably require all sort of fail-safe doodahs - there’s 250 kg of force at the business end of the lever when the springs are compressed; you don’t want that swinging free)

                  What the timer may do is to stop pressure (as in: stop the pump).

                      dfk41 I was merely making the point that if in computing terms, new technology comes out, then who in their right mind buys something with far less advanced technology (ignoring traditional lever machines).

                      But you are still assuming people are making fully informed, rational choice. I do not believe this will be the case in the near future.

                      CoyoteOldMan What the timer may do is to stop pressure (as in: stop the pump).

                      Which would allow you to the “blooming” phase. Would be nice to have.

                          pjw The pre-infussion timer, this will measure the time, or will be able to “release” the lever in automatic way to start the spring driven extraction under full pressure?

                          The preinfusion timer is purely to record the time you have to release the lever from the crooked position manually. Anything else would be far too dangerous.

                          When you make subsequent shots you can look at the prev shots preinfusion time and replicate, or adjust more/less according to taste.

                          The lever can only auto vent and stop the shot during the brew phase.

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