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Very interesting indeed!
Very nice! Thx Dave.
DavecUK Very interesting, thank you - so the feed-in solenoid re-opens when the shot is ‘ended’? And ‘non-brewed’ water is shunted to the drip tray, I assume?
CoyoteOldMan Pretty much correct yes. There’s multiple electronic pressure sensors to manage preinfusion pressure and the rest of the magic.
That is not a problem, in fact it is preferred.
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@ “tompoland”#p29717 @DavecUK I may have missed it but has the price been decided yet?
Not completely but it should be about the same price as a Londinium LR24 or a bit more. It’s all stainless and much of it 3mm thick and quite expensive to make.
They are also looking at what can be retrofitted to existing evos.
- Rotary pump
- Variable preinfusion via touchscreen
- External box for automated operation and shot timers preinfusion/brew time etc.
So previous purchasers have not been forgotten.
Can you pop up the link to acs/Paulo Dave.
I might have to send an expression of interest.
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Apologies re: the plumbed-in fluff up. It seems the 1-group Vostok is more like an Evo+ than the larger Vostoks!
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MediumRoastSteam I may be wrong of course, it could be the same price as an LR 24 or a little bit more, as I thought the Londinium was more expensive.
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Thats pretty close to the Nurri in price with the added innovation with being able to adjust time and pressure for preinfusion at the front of the machine including a digital display to confirm both.
@DavecUK a big thanks for your video, it’s fabulous to have a sneak preview into a machine like this with such a quality pedigree, like a world premier exclusively here on CT.
Dave the digital panel on the right hand side looked like changing a setting was very easy/intuitive by contrast with the display and button combination on the left which looked a lot less intuitive. Was that your experience?
That said, it sounds like it’s still very much a prototype and if so, I’d personally be voting for a single digital display to replace the current display/button combo on the left hand side.
However I really like the idea of having the two separate displays because it makes each display simpler than having one bigger display that does everything.
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tompoland the small display is very intuitive, In production machines the buttons will be to the left of the display, this makes for easier access to them. Having two displays is an advantage really because if you suddenly want to manually vent the group or do something you actually keeps the two functions completely separate one is the basic or operation of the machine and the other is whether the machine is in auto or manual operation time or pressure.
I have talked to Paulo also about adding an instantanious flow rate per minute for the brew pressure phase, with an average at the end.
At the moment two screens and not really possible to make them into 1, that’s because the lower panel screen is based on Gicar boards and software. The smaller screen is one of some being developed for a larger CAN bus based system for the future. Then you’re single screen and controls will be possible.
DavecUK Sounds brilliant!
Any chance the external box for the Minima will come to market/ be resurrected?!