I hate autotune so much, it's very limiting for me to find music. At the moment chilling to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHtJBj9F-sM

I think it is ok to post even if we aren’t listening, but watching or reading! We are watching BBC’s programme on *Political Thinking* hosted by Nick Robinson, who is interviewing the newly appointed Social Mobility Chairperson Katharine Birbalsingh CBE.

Listening to Radio 2 at the moment

Not right this very second, but I'm listening to a lot of TOOL and Pusifer recently. My stereo is currently in storage, so SONOS or phone mainly unless I'm in the car.

@"DavecUK"#p1436 Will you listen to anything that isn't auto-tuned, or do you have particular genres?

Apple music’s today’s hits and recent releases are my typical go to play lists. The last recent release album I listened was 30 by Adele. Elvis’s and Beatles are my all time favourites.

> @"PortafilterProcrastinator"#p1444 Will you listen to anything that isn’t auto-tuned, or do you have particular genres? I like all music, the problem is after autotune became increasingly prevalent after the mid 90s, I found myself listening to les and less…I couldn't initially work out why, then I discovered autotune and then Melodyne, There has been pitch correction for a very long time, right back to the tape and splice days with multiple takes…this isn 't a problem. Autotune is a massive problem as is hand dragged pure digital pitch correction. It changes the voice, looses all human character, and they all sound like singing Kazoos. If it isn't autotuned…I'll listen to it, I'm pragmatic. Just the same as when I go to buy a pair of Trainers, or shoes…I don't ask to look at various styles…I ask the shop assistant, what trainers have you got in size 12…they give me a puzzled look as if im an idiot, but come back with 2 or 3 pairs of trainers, which are the only 3 styles in size 12. What's getting really irritating is the production companies, in their "wisdom", have gone back and autotuned Bowie, Freddie Mercury, Simon and garfunkle etc.. to make it "better". I'm quite passionate about the companies stopping using it….as they are robbing generations of appreciating how voices can, and should sound. If you're interested, there is a great YouTube channel here, Fil does some great videos covering music, playing, performance and more recently autotune/pitch correction. https://www.youtube.com/c/wingsofpegasus

If I’m on my own the. It’s Planet Rock or my vast collection of Classic Rock through my iphone and my Bose Revolve plus. My stereo is in storage too as I have a two year old grand daughter who visits very regularly

The Hi-Fi stand is full of her toys and books atm

I do like classic Rock - deep Purple was a favourite of mine when I was young. Steve Tyler used to make me laugh as well. > @"Nightrider_1uk"#p1450 My stereo is in storage too as I have a two year old grand daughter who visits very regularly I understand 😁 ![Dent in the dust cap | HiFiVision.com](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fP2u0FCqNy0/maxresdefault.jpg) I had to protect mine from the cat with lift off shells….the more expensive ones in the front room, are not protected, he is just denied access….how he loves trying to get into the front room and is in 7th heaven when he does. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/P2VakbB.jpeg]

This week I've mainly been listening to Leonard Cohen - Song's of Love and Hate, Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanangan - Ballad Of The Broken Seas and Amy Winehouse At The BBC - all recent purchases (albeit third copy of the Cohen album!), interspersed with BBC 6 Music. I'm old fashioned, still listen almost entirely on vinyl and still buying it. I'm really interested in music and always have been, dabbled in recording and production for years, not so much now but still interested in it. Still play guitar, electric and acoustic. The discussion on the sound of a lot of modern popular recordings is interesting - it's not to my taste either. It's fashion though - that sound is what is popular now. Production is constantly changing as engineers and musicians use the latest developments available to them - been that way since recording started. That Cher song Believe, was the first big song to use Auto-Tune - and use it in a way that it was not designed to be used. It was initially intended to be a subtle correction tool but she cranked it to 11 for that robot voice sound and started a fashion. My other big gripe with modern music is that it generally lacks dynamics, what people sometimes refer to as the loudness wars. I think this is due to how people consume music now. When I was a teenager, getting your first "separates system" was a right of passage. Hi-Fi was a thing. And you listened to physical albums. Now people listen on streaming services through cheap earbuds or tinny bluetooth speakers. Artists (and record companies) no longer make money on sales, them make them on streamed "listens" - and without an immediate punch and catchy gimmick it's very easy for the listener to simply skip to the next song. So everything gets "louder" to attract attention. Recording even has a new measurement to cater for this need - the LUT, which is basically a measure of loudness. You should add that to your hate list alongside overt use of Auto-Tune. I'm less upset about Melodyne though as it is generally used as a subtle production tool rather than an effect; when used well it should be transparent and can make a good recording of a great voice even better. I do enjoy the imperfections in older recordings though.

What I'm listening to/Watching at the moment

4W5

DavecUK Complete and utter nonsense of course, but I love an apocalypse/end of the world type drama.

DavecUK

4W5 I will take a heavy drink from the cup of suspension of disbelief.

ScuttersChoice

4W5

DavecUK not posted before, just read. Probably sound stupid but the lower burr carrier rests on top of the inner shaft.

4W5

DavecUK I believe in the zombies but I have other unanswered questions like where are the survivors getting their food from, why don’t they have scurvy and can you really stab through someone’s skull with a knife.

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK I finished Lost in space through gritted teeth, every clichéd, woke, unrealistic Disneyesqe, sickening moment of the last 3 episodes.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 - let’s face it. It was rubbish from the very start. But there was something about it… like eating Pringles…. You know it’s absolutely junk and full of E-numbers, but you just want to keep eating.

Baldrick

MediumRoastSteam so true! Did think it was erring on the side of being really irritating at times but was very easy viewing.

I’ve just finished re watching merlin on Netflix - game of thrones it isn’t but it’s crap in a very British way 😁

Systemic

MediumRoastSteam finished Lost in space through gritted teeth, every clichéd, woke, unrealistic Disneyesqe, sickening moment of the last 3 episodes.

Managed 15 mins before I gave up - kept telling myself with such a stellar cast, it would get better - it didn’t.

DavecUK

4W5 I believe in the zombies but I have other unanswered questions like where are the survivors getting their food from, why don’t they have scurvy and can you really stab through someone’s skull with a knife.

I quite agree, another question is have they got enough toilet paper in a crisis, if so how did they get it once people started panic buying?

Ernie1

DavecUK

The cone/tweeter struggle is real.

I’ve got two pairs of B&W 685 (which as a side note are incredibly good speakers that can be had for relatively low cost second-hand) and had to replace the tweeter twice during house moves.

Despite being packaged in boxes and wrapped in all manner of protective material still got dented.

As for what I’m listening to; Magnolia Electric Co by Songs:Ohia. Also Honest Life by Courtney Marie Andrews. They both sound incredibly good on vinyl and should be accessible enough for most music fans!

DavecUK

I watched this last night. Saw the bus fight scene and realised it needed a watch, if you don’t like violence, humour and swearing, obviously don’t click the link. I think this film may have gone under the radar for me. This particular clip is a mix of Kingsman, John Wick and stuff i’ve never seen before.

I thought it made up the bulk of the movie and nothing else of substance…but no….it was a good film and an enjoyable watch, if you liked John Wick, you will surely like this.

PortafilterProcrastinator

DavecUK Trawling back a bit here, but if you are partial to a bit of humorous violence and swearing, have you tried ‘Happy’ on NF?

Very bizarre, but strangely addictive and entertaining.

dfk41

I watched d Ozark series 4. Thought the end did not really tell the story, only to learn that series 4 is being released in 2 blocks of 7 with the concluding 7 coming later in the year!

Pompeyexile

Saw that film Dave when it came out just because I like the actor who also plays Sol in ‘Better Call Sol’ which was a spin off from Breaking Bad and is excellent too.

Thought it was as good as any other film of its type and that bus fight scene is one of the best fight scenes like it.

Talking of Kingsman, I’m off to the flicks this week to watch ’The King’s Man’ which is a sort of prequel to the two kingsman films which I loved.

Just finished Series 4 part 1 of Ozark. They’ve done the same as Breaking Bad did for the final series they have split it into two the first 7 episodes in part one and the rest later on in the year. Boy it is good, and left it on a cliffhanger with potty mouthed Ruth really really losing her S**t!

Pompeyexile

Ooh, just thought of nother really good series which sadly after series three was discontinuted but was brilliant…

Sneaky Pete.

Createdby Brian Cranston of Breaking Bad it was about a young hustler taking over the identity of a prison inmate and what ensude after he got out of prison. Why it was cancelled I have no idea because as I said it was very good.

DavecUK

Pompeyexile Is it on NF? or Amazon Prime?

Pompeyexile

Amazon but I watched it via my Kodi…Shhhh!

Java_avaJ

Well I’m re-watching a few things: Casa de Papel (money heist), Ozark, and Dexter. Then music: I usuually listen to a lot of Keith Jarrett, Bill Frisell, Haydn string quartets I’m very fond of, yesterday I listened to a lot of Temples and Roon suggested related bands courtesy of Tidal, but most days there’s always time for some Grateful Dead, in fact I think that’s what I’m going for now :-)

Java_avaJ

I wrote something this morning about what I’m watching and listening to and now, instead of my name, it says [deleted]. Did I do that by mistake or have I transgressed in some way?

DavecUK

Java_avaJ I wrote something this morning about what I’m watching and listening to and now, instead of my name, it says [deleted]. Did I do that by mistake or have I transgressed in some way?

You have not….I have never had to delete anything so far. I can see a post from you 7 hours ago, just above your post…where you are watching Casa de Papel etc..

I checked the audit log…I installed a logger temporarily to see if there really was a bug with posts getting deleted. This is what is says for you. Since it was installed

The only deleted post was one of my own as part of testing 2 days ago.

Pompeyexile

I know this a bit off piste, but I’ve noticed there are a lot of documentaries on Sky about UFO’s and Aliens especially since the release of the footage from pilots from the aircraft carrier Nimitz which the Pentagon has seemingly acknowledged rather than trying to deny.

So, you bunch of level headed, scientific, evidence based, caffeine addicts…have we/are we being visited? is it Nanu Nanu or just a load of old Shazbats?

Me? I go by odds and according to best guestimates, there are over 200 billion trillion stars out there, which means there are even more planets circling them. So what are the odds considering our planet is not as old as many and we humans have only been here in a nano blink of an eye…pretty good I recon.

BEAM ME UP!

What makes you think I’m bored today?

Java_avaJ

Thanks for looking @DavecUK, when I went back to the page my post was there and no longer said ‘deleted’ so I removed the post asking about it.

DavecUK

Java_avaJ <lol> You think you deleted it, but there is another bug, or perhaps intended behaviour. If a user deletes a post after the edit timer expires…it looks deleted (to you), but it’s not. If you refresh your browser, I bet it magically reappears.

The edit time is 10 minutes, because this version of flarum is bugged for setting other edit time strategies (you can set them, but it doesn’t work), apparently fixed in version 1.2 released a few days ago. So once freeflarum updates their version, I can have perhaps a more sensible edit time.

DavecUK

Tonight, I have promised myself a binge up on the Witcher, followed by Ozark which everyone keeps saying is brilliant.

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