Flat versus Conical
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This is how the Solo looks with the Minima, albeit in black. I actually prefered the look of the Solo to the Niche, which was an important factor in me choosing it
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Agreed on the dosing cup. Not sure if you can make it out in the pic, but I have a stainless 58mm dosing cup whuch I sit inside the plastic dosing cup and it sits really neatly rught under the chute.
I tend to push my knockbox up against the cup when grinding to make sure it doesn’t fall out when grinding (one of Hoffman’s main gripes with this grinder in his review). Not as neat as the Niche workflow, but it works for me.
I’ve seen people 3d printing alternative dosing cup holders to get the cup closer to the chute which I might look into ideally if my stainless cup fits in that I’d bin off the plastic one altogether
I have never had the chance to try a side by side comparison but in all honesty, I suspect I never will have the ability to really taste the difference between the same beans ground on flat or conical burrs. I also do not have the space or funds (or agreement from my other half) to have two grinders of reasonable quality. So, for me it is a case of listening to those with far more experience and getting a grinder that I think is for the money, a decent all rounder… and the Niche fits the bill.
Even if Niche bring out a flat burr version I could still never get one, because of the reasons above and I guess if I’m being honest, also because I’m just not that inquisitive enough about finding and experiencing the nuances that coffee, like expensive wines or Michelin star prepared food can provide. A tasty cup that is far superior than instant will do me.
But I get where many of you are coming from… your passion for your ‘hobby’ is to be admired.
Ixorya I think with the price differences involved, your stated preferences and the fact you like how they both look. Apart from the workflow, the DF64 would seem to be your logical choice, then see if you want to upgrade to SSP burrs later as it uses the Italmill burr set, not my favourite, but it works OK.
dutchy101 Oh my, the black set looks good too. @.@
@DavecUK thank you for the suggestion and the in-depth review. Really did answer a lot of my questions. I like that the DF64 is a good “all-rounder” grinder. Since I switch between brew methods often. How is your experience switching brew methods? I’ll watch the videos attached to the review tomorrow to get a better idea of the grinder. 😁
Thank you all for the valuable input. I am learning a lot. 😁
Ixorya How is your experience switching brew methods? I’ll watch the videos attached to the review tomorrow to get a better idea of the grinder
It was OK, not real problems that I remember…not quite as slick to adjust as a Niche.
Ixorya Another question, is a 30 SGD / 20 EUR / 22 USD upgrade to the titanium burrs worth it? Or not really since might
No
Out of curiosity I asked Hansung Lee how much a set of SSP’s would be for my E37s (83mm), he quoted 350USD incl Fedex to the UK. There will probably be VAT and import tax on top of that at the border. So not a cheap upgrade!!
I cant remember if i paid import on my ssp when i got them, im thinking i did
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This is quite an interesting video:
And also this that showed most professional could tell the difference blind testing
If you are drinking back to back to back you will/may pick up differences depending on palette but on their own it’s alot more difficult.
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Cuprajake - exactly. As I said before, my experience was that I couldn’t tell the difference between the Duo and the Zero - not a pronounced difference. But I’m sure if I had them side by side, I would.
I do think more then ever manufacturers are preying on consumer uncertainty, pushed even more by what’s found on line
That vid of lance is kinda as clear as mud as in he says they are at opposite ends of the scale but then they cross over etc, I suppose as long as the burrs are not in a zero we are good 😬 I really feel for the folks at niche come the time lance gets his duo, I’m hoping he looks at it with a new product eye with no bias of his previous niche zero thoughts.
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Cuprajake I really feel for the folks at niche come the time lance gets his duo, I’m hoping he looks at it with a new product eye with no bias of his previous niche zero thoughts.
Yeah… That would be a very interesting time. Personally, I don’t think Niche played that card very well, from a marketing/keeping influencers sweet point of view at least.
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Pricing and offering single flat burr - there is a business case, which is up to them.
Re-influencers / reviewers - I wonder how does one play! Taste is relative; and, how extensive a reviewer is willing to go down testing? No point, IMO, worrying about influencers / reviewers views especially if one were to decide because Niche Zero doesn’t claimed to be not fairing well for light or many end up using finer settings for filter and state it s****!
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This is true not just for Niche, but for any products in general.