Which grinder up to £1000?

Even using the burrs for filter and espresso 100kg would last me 5 years… or approx 20p per week.

I probably spill at least 20p worth of beans down the side of the fridge each week.

MattH

It is easy enough to get parts and service mazzers, especially if you have local engineers that service espresso machines and grinders. But again if it is built like other mazzer products it won’t need much in the way of maintenance, especially because it doesn’t have any screens or dosing by time or weight features

Only 64, they doing a bigger burr?? Sorry been out coffee game few years now, things slightly moved

I’m not particularly worried about the Mazzer burrs being rated for 100kg. It fits my usage and within the 5 or so years before they need replacing, someone will have probably swapped for SSP burrs and reviewed it to death and on top of that a 1000 threads elsewhere asking which burrs are best to swap to.

If the home run is 1000 euros delivered, and UK prices being closer to £1,300 all in, it puts it up against the Lagom P64 and the Moca SD and I’ll bite.

Non of us are wearing burrs out lol

If the grinder is rated for light commercial use, that would be the main way people would get through 100kg in a reasonable amount of time. Again at 1000€ it does seem very interesting, still need to wait for it to get into people’s hands first

MediumRoastSteam On the Mazzer Philos topic, there are some posts on HB saying Mazzer burrs don’t last very long, rated 100kg or so if using dense, lighted roasted beans.

Not very good for a grinder that Mazzer describes as light commercial.

On the plus side Mazzer 64mm burrs are cheaper to buy replacements for than SSP, but even then SSP advertise 50x longer lifespan with their coated burrs.

More than us home users will ever need but a consideration for commercial environments.

I thought the burrs on the philios are new for this - so how does anyone know who well they last - its just fluff filling time until the release…

Stock Mazzer burrs are as cheap as you can get for good quality burrs.

But their new k-series burrs in the 83mm range are up there with SSP in pricing, and sometime quite hard to get hold off, at least from Australia. For example a k151I was AU$430 (_{GBG249 US}$295). The k151G was almost unobtainium and ended up being over AU$600 landed. Ouch. But it’s a burr that delivers clarity as impressively as any other that I’ve tried.

So if their new 64mm burr series follows suite, I’d expect them to be two to three times the price of say the stock mini 64mm burrs. Mazzers range of burrs in 83mm is as impressive as their 64mm range is underwhelming. But it looks like the Philos will spearhead a change in their 64mm range. That would be great because they have produced some stunning new burrs in the 83mm range.

Cuprajake If you believe the self-entitled burrologists on some forums you need X amount to properly break in, then have X amount of useful life then the burrs are totally worthless. That window of opportunity to get things 100% is here and gone in a snap…

For home use/personal consumption I calculated I’ve cranked out in excess of 25K double extractions over the years. No doubt I’ve put some wear on different burr sets, but have honestly never felt the need to replace any just because they seemed to give out. Do they wear and degrade in quality/efficiency? Sure, but not a drastic night/day difference with any grinder I’ve used.

Read into the lab sweets, some had really mixed results with them, like buying ultra light Nordic roasts and then it was mellowing them out

Burrs seem to be super subjective. I’m pretty happy with the stock burrs in the df64 gen 2, not sure it’s worth the £180 ish for a set of MP’s, which could be way harder to dial in and add additional noise. Feel free to checkout my DF64 Gen 2 thoughts on my recent sale post of the niche. Overall I’m happy at the price point.