Niche Duo - problems or bias?

JammyDodger

I had initially supported on this forum for the duo to be available in uno form when it first came out and was glad when niche relented as it is always good for the consumers for more reasonably affordable grinders to be available in the larger burr sizes. I have no doubt it will do the job as a flat burr single dosing grinder as well as the zero has for conical grinders.

Personally I have not been interested so much in the grinder as i prefer to use mostly light roast beans and I understand that the mazzer burrs the niche comes in are optimised for darker roasts beans. In addition I already have grinders equipped with SSP burrs in 64mm and I understand that there isn’t much tangible upgrade gain from 64mm to 83mm to bother with getting 83mm grinder as well. If I were an exclusively traditional espresso fan and if I did not already have flat burr grinders, the niche duo in uno configuration would certainly be one of the candidates for consideration.

fwiw theres not too much difference between the ssp hu 83mm and th mazzer 83mm burrs ive had both

Cuprajake Doesn’t the SSP HU give a brighter cup than the Mazzer?

i dont personally understand the casts,

people buy light roast for the acidity then buy a burr that mutes it, the casts seem to a really wird burr

the ssp hu give a bit more acitdity and sweetness, but you need them side by side,

but dont let me tell you that, they have to sell the burrs,……i mean after spending nearly £350 on a set, there wasnt £350 worth of difference

Cuprajake

I have no experience of the 83mm ssp burrs, any of them. However i have the ssp mp and cast for 64mm, and my favourite is the ssp cast lab sweet burrs in 64mm. The mp burrs are more differented in flavour separation but the cast burrs are just more balanced and sweet while maintaining a healthy flavour separation. But everyone will have different mileage here I am sure.

chlorox which I understand from the forums to be no5 the mazzer burrs’ forte since it really is tailored for a traditional dark roast Italian type espresso which i have moved away mostly from.

That is nonsense, in my humble. People on forums are presuming an Italian made grinder popular in Italy is made for the type of beans favourable within the country…..there are some big leaps there matey. Has anyone ever told you not to believe everything you see on the internet?

dfk41

This seems to be the view of mazzer itself since they appear to be marketing the new burrs made for the philos to be their first fir the contemporary taste that favours lighter roasts?

id love to be in a position to blind taste all these burrs back to back, as burrs are only one part of the whole,

LMSC Doesn’t the SSP HU give a brighter cup than the Mazzer?

Not really…the Mazzer burrs are fine with light or dark roasts and are perhaps not as “one dimensional” as the SSPs. I don’t know really where all this Mazzer burrs perform best with dark roasts comes from….and the proper evidence supporting that. I have not noticed much difference between SSP HU burrs and the 151B mazzers with light roasts. Sure it’s a little different, but no way £300 better. It’s also not consistent…with some light roast coffees Mazzer can be a little better, with others SSP can be a little better.

Petre Also, not super happy that the top burr carrier comes in contact with the collar through a plastic with questionable tolerances. In fact, the collar came from the factory with a small defect that put a groove into the carrier plastic. I dropped all the plans with SSP since these burrs need to go really close to the

Could you elaborate on this…

The collar presses on this plastic to adjust the burr gap. You can also see the groove I was saying about.

We know the whole upper burr carrier goes down when you press it down. I normally depress this while tightening the hopper.

I am not sure I understand what you had indicated. If my understanding is correct, the carrier is optimised to fit the mazzer. The other burrs set may not fit well.

Don’t you brew with the filter burrs? The filter is awesome, and in-fact, it spoiled me completely to an extent that it has become our daily driver. The poor Evo is now relegated to the week-end duty. 😁

LMSC I did not see a fitting problem in the carrier, SSP actually fitted well. I just did not see the point in trying to align within 20 microns if the shaft can move maybe 200 if pressed by hand. This actually does not seem to affect the performance of the original burrs, which seems to work fine and consistent and actually I prefer them over SSP in most of the cases.

Petre The plastic tolerances are pretty good…the groove (if it’s a defect with the hopper bottom) will at least be evenly worn, so shouldn’t affect alignment. I would still recommend you send details to Niche.

1. So they know about it
2. Can send you new parts if that’s thought necessary.