Niche Duo - problems or bias?

Gagaryn I. do not think you are an idiot, or that you do not know what you are talking about either. But, I do think you are applying general engineering principles to a specialist coffee product.

dfk41 But, I do think you are applying general engineering principles to a specialist coffee product.

I am. Because they are 100% applicable. Specialist coffee products are not magical.

Gagaryn Have you wondered why Dave has not weighed in? He could……he could tell you things that you are simply not aware of……not every aspect of design is shown on the table top for all to see……but, I am not going to convince you since you want to see data and I cannot supply that……and I doubt Dave will!

dfk41 I do

dfk41 Have you wondered why Dave has not weighed in?

I’ve wondered why you haven’t noticed that he has.

dfk41 he could tell you things that you are simply not aware of

No doubt :-)

dfk41 I am not going to convince you since you want to see data

Do I? What data do I want to see? You seem to know what I want better than I know what I want. :-)

I just clarified some points.. within what I can/want to say

Ohhh juicy 😎not sure if I’m right or wrong, wasn’t the motor winding a specific problem and it got resolved, could wrong 😂

Jony Ohhh juicy 😎not sure if I’m right or wrong, wasn’t the motor winding a specific problem and it got resolved, could wrong 😂

No not really, that was all bottomed out well before the launch of any Niche grinders. They take reliability incredibly seriously.

lyxotte Sorry, I missed this. I have been playing with the Caravel recently and have decided to keep it for the moment. Good luck with finding one!

JammyDodger

I had initially supported on this forum for the duo to be available in uno form when it first came out and was glad when niche relented as it is always good for the consumers for more reasonably affordable grinders to be available in the larger burr sizes. I have no doubt it will do the job as a flat burr single dosing grinder as well as the zero has for conical grinders.

Personally I have not been interested so much in the grinder as i prefer to use mostly light roast beans and I understand that the mazzer burrs the niche comes in are optimised for darker roasts beans. In addition I already have grinders equipped with SSP burrs in 64mm and I understand that there isn’t much tangible upgrade gain from 64mm to 83mm to bother with getting 83mm grinder as well. If I were an exclusively traditional espresso fan and if I did not already have flat burr grinders, the niche duo in uno configuration would certainly be one of the candidates for consideration.

Cuprajake Doesn’t the SSP HU give a brighter cup than the Mazzer?

i dont personally understand the casts,

people buy light roast for the acidity then buy a burr that mutes it, the casts seem to a really wird burr

the ssp hu give a bit more acitdity and sweetness, but you need them side by side,

but dont let me tell you that, they have to sell the burrs,……i mean after spending nearly £350 on a set, there wasnt £350 worth of difference

Cuprajake

I have no experience of the 83mm ssp burrs, any of them. However i have the ssp mp and cast for 64mm, and my favourite is the ssp cast lab sweet burrs in 64mm. The mp burrs are more differented in flavour separation but the cast burrs are just more balanced and sweet while maintaining a healthy flavour separation. But everyone will have different mileage here I am sure.

chlorox which I understand from the forums to be no5 the mazzer burrs’ forte since it really is tailored for a traditional dark roast Italian type espresso which i have moved away mostly from.

That is nonsense, in my humble. People on forums are presuming an Italian made grinder popular in Italy is made for the type of beans favourable within the country…..there are some big leaps there matey. Has anyone ever told you not to believe everything you see on the internet?

dfk41

This seems to be the view of mazzer itself since they appear to be marketing the new burrs made for the philos to be their first fir the contemporary taste that favours lighter roasts?

id love to be in a position to blind taste all these burrs back to back, as burrs are only one part of the whole,

chlorox If that be the case, how do you jump to all other Mazzer burrs must be made for Italian style roasts? Frankly, I do not accept that there are as many super tasters around as folks claim.