My only brewer is an Aeropress. Other than that I drink espresso either straight or with steamed milk.

I like the Aeropress but sometimes I feel its a bit ‘flat’. I’ve had nice brews but nothing like the natural Ethiopian served to me from a V60 in the now defunct Track in Marlow. That really wowed me. Do you brewing cognoscenti (looking at you Mark B/Dave) think the V60 gives a ‘superior’ cup (livelier, more intense, not 100% sure what I’m trying to articulate here)?

The reason I haven’t tried one yet is I’m a bit faffophobic and don’t want to clutter my ridiculously small kitchen with more coffee paraphernalia like pouring kettles etc, and learn the dark art of V60 brewing, but might give it a go if people can convince me its tastier, cleaner etc than AP. I do 10 minute steeps with AP and favour light /med naturals.

    Hotmetal I’ve been pretty happy doing v60 with a standard kettle. I’m sure it’s easier with a gooseneck, but I can get a low flow steady stream with some careful pouring.

    Unlike many coffee related gadgets a plastic v60 is only £5, so I say give it ago

      Hotmetal I like a V60 from time to time….tried friend’s aeropress, and it was too much faff for me, plus a pain to clean up. V6 seems cleaner tasting too.

      If you do get one, I think a plastic cone is better than glass or ceramic as it doesn’t need warming and is super cheap (plus lightweight, chuck it in a cupboard..

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          Hotmetal The V60 gives you a cup in 2-4 min that it takes 20-30min to brew in the Aeropress. When both are good they’re comparable, but long steep Aeropress are only an occasional thing for me.

          If you want drip, but don’t want a goosneck/faff, buy a Melitta/Kalita 185/Wilfa pourover cone.

          V60 is quick, extracts well & consistent, but not magic/different to other popular cones. It’s not an art, it’s a mechanical process & what you get out is a reflection of what you put in (care, coffee, grind).

            DavecUK If you do get one, I think a plastic cone is better than glass or ceramic as it doesn’t need warming and is super cheap (plus lightweight, chuck it in a cupboard..

            Damn! I orderd the glass one with the wooden base because it was so cheap. Heat retention never occurred to me and as for ‘chucking in a cupboard’…..sacrilege!

            I guess I might have found another use for my beany hat.

              Cheers guys. I don’t even have an ordinary kettle since going Osmio, but I might try with the Kalita and a basic stove top gooseneck to take the hot water from the osmio to the dripper. I think it’s the “30 min AP steep in 2-4 minutes” that convinced me. I think I was somewhat discouraged by the long-running thread on the old site “show us your slurry” or whatever, which made it all seem very complicated. Your advice about long steep AP was a game changer for me to enjoy that method (which I basically bought for travel) but drip does appeal, more so than a long black from the Rocket. Many thanks for your input, both.

              Beanie hat = coffee cosy hahaha! 🤣

              i drink a full range of coffee.

              first thing espresso, mid morning some kind of pour over currently either a v60 or a chemex but have ordered a stagg xf to be delivered tomorrow which im excited for. and then mid afternoon some kind of milk based espresso drink.

              if i had more time in the day i’d make more pour overs but work stops that ha

                spasypaddy if i had more time in the day i’d make more pour overs but work stops that ha

                The one thing about being retired is whilst time may not be on my side (nearer the top of the ladder of life) I do have time on my hands. So, I guess if I wanted to I could make enough pour over to bath in… wouldn’t fancy drinking if after though.

                    Predominantly an enthusiast of espresso (and espresso based beverages), I got into the pourover world after my wife bought me a Hario V60 for Xmas.

                    Easy, ‘no fuss’ brewer to get great coffee out in less than 5 mins (including the preparation). Loads of (pretty similar) recipes out on the web to make life easier.

                    Yesterday, I tried a light to medium El Salvadorian roast from Chimney Fire that came with my Dog and Hat subscirption, and I like with the ‘clean’ and distinct flavours I am getting…although unable to taste the ‘wine gum’ (really, what is it?) that the roaster mentions😁.

                    Well my V60 arrived today…It’s the 01 version and I thought it was good for two cups but it loks a bit small to me. I could only get about 130-40 ml in it.

                    Got to admit though the glass is a lot thicker than I expected.

                    Oh well, I guess i’ll have to order an 02 now (plastic Dave) which at £6 won’t break the bank.

                      Pompeyexile It doesn’t need to hold all the brew water, so you can feasibly brew 2 cups with an 01.

                      It can get a bit messy trying to pick up wet doses of more than 18g in an 01 paper though. I prefer to make 2 separate brews than to make 2 cups from 1 brewer.

                        I am genuinely trepidatious in making brewed coffee for Mark…next time..

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                        For brew, I almost always use Clever long steep, that too trusted Mark’s recipe!

                        The Indian filter and Aero Press are gathering dusts. I don’t use them unless some one disappoint me with a bag of coffee powder — it is always a KG of this coffee purchased locally in the UK! 😨

                        One of our friends told us they have another KG of this s*** . It’s not funny when we get a bag like this. 😑

                        Elsewhere, I would love get V60, but don’t want to get a gooseneck kettle, after purchasing Osmio Zero. 😊

                        So, what do people on here generally call one cup in ml? I thought it would be about 230 - 240ml. Having said that, when saying cup I mean mug. But as I say, about 130-140ml is the 01 limit which is quite a bit less.

                        When you say it doesn’t have to hold all the brew water, do you mean pour in the 140ml let it drain down a bit then add the final 100ml?

                        Also, just out of interest, if you were brewing to get 230/240ml out, how many gramms of coffee would you generally use…15-16g?

                          Pompeyexile I frequently do 250ml with a size 01 v60. Coffee dose I usually use is 15g.

                          People use it in different ways. Some pour in batches, such as 50g every 45s, others do a slow pour to keep it full until they hit target weight.

                          The approach I’ve settled on is:

                          • Rinse the paper with boiling water
                            • this makes sure you don’t get any flavour from the paper and pre-warms your cup
                          • add your coffee (15g) and stir it in the middle to make a hole
                            • the aim here is to avoid a really deep middle where the coffee in the bottom doesn’t get wet when you add the water. I use the handle of a teaspoon
                          • add 30-45g of water to bloom the coffee (start your timer when you start pouring)
                            • this lets the CO2 from roasting escape so the coffee is fully wetted. You should see bubbles.
                          • 8 stirs from the edge to the middle, e.g. insert the spoon handle at the 12 O’clock position and pull to the middle, repeat from 6, 3, 9, 1.5, 7.5, 4.5 and 10.5 o’clock positions
                            • this might sound too much, but I saw some studies where it improved extraction. The idea is really just to make sure there aren’t any dry spots. It doesn’t take very long.
                          • At 30s pour in your water slowly until the cone is full, and keep pouring slowly until you hit 250g
                            • size 01 cool quite quickly, so the aim of this approach is to maximise the heat retention by keeping the volume as high as possible. I don’t have a gooseneck, but can get a similar size stream of water from my normal kettle if I’m careful
                          • let it drain a bit and then do a quick swirl to level the bed
                          • wait until it’s all drained
                          • enjoy

                          I know written instructions can be harder to interpret, so here are a couple of videos that should give you some ideas of approaches (if you search on YouTube there are loads of tutorials)

                            Wow, I’m not doing any of this right….I will have to film what I do. I do use a spoon, but not like you think

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                              Well I did my first attempt using your method Hornbyben and it tasted lovely! Not bitter or harsh but just a lovely cup and yes, the India Monsoon Malabar AA from Rave which says has a smokey flavour profile is actually something I am getting.

                              Wonderful!

                                DavecUK surely the fun part is there’s no such thing as right. That’s what makes it so frustrating. There’s always something different you can try 🤣.

                                Pompeyexile, in glad you enjoyed it

                                      hornbyben surely the fun part is there’s no such thing as right. That’s what makes it so frustrating. There’s always something different you can try 🤣.

                                      You are right.

                                      I’m thinking next time to try it when there’s a full moon and Venus is in conjunction with Jupiter, standing on one leg whilst emitting a medieval gregorian chant and wearing nothing but a marino woollen thong.

                                      Perhaps then I’ll get the cocolate and cedar flavour notes too.