At least 2 of us now👍🏻
Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.
T64 Grinder From Bella Barista
Excellent stuff @Adrianmsmith always good to have someone to compare notes with
Noticed an email from BB with more details on a blog post. Variable rpm quoted at 300-1400 and not 800-2000 as on the model Dave have been testing. Interesting.
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Got the same email…..
Link to the info….
Worth noting also if you are considering purchase (if you are tight like I am) you can effectively get free shipping if you go on their chat or email and request for an order to be created . there’s a 2% saving if you pay by bank transfer. Quick, easy and cost effective.
Just waiting for the boat to land now😁
Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.
simonc Why 800? Because it was the slowest it could do, so you would run at 500 or maybe 300 if possible as now suggested or do you think 800 gives best particle distribution?
I like 800 for 64mm burrs.
DavecUK I like 800 for 64mm burrs.
I know you like 800rpm for 64mm burrs. But why? What’s the rationale behind it?
Surely if it goes to 300rpm that increases the likelihood of stalling quite significantly?
simonc if you have it can you run some lighter beans at espresso settings with the lowest RPM and report back? Thanks
FadedFrontiers I have the KOPI deva not the T64 but also an adjustable RPM 64mm so hence interested.
MediumRoastSteam I know you like 800rpm for 64mm burrs. But why? What’s the rationale behind it?
It’s about burr size and throughput. I’ve explained why quite a few times in other threads, search for “burr packing,”.
From a business perspective it seems BB is not getting the attraction they needed/wanted, which is not too surprising. Sub-500GBP SD grinder market is super competitive atm and most will stick with DF64 gen 2. Hopefully that will not kill off the grinder, hopefully to buy it from a local retailer soon…
What brings you to that conclusion, how many have been sold?….
Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.
Adrianmsmith just the impression. No discussion about it outside this forum. Pretty low view count on Dave’s video. For many people it will just be another DF64 “clone”, which is not true but hard to convince otherwise.
Sometimes good produce <> good selling
delta76 Pretty low view count on Dave’s video. For many people it will just be another DF64 “clone”, which is not true but hard to convince otherwise.
Sometimes good produce <> good selling
If the grinder is as good as I have at home and should be a lot better with the improved spec and burrs (I think the speeds they quote must be wrong)…then a lot of people are going to miss out on something excellent. I know the influencers have high view counts and sometimes the paid shills just make me want to walk away from it all. The reason being “why bother”.
They truly don’t give a crap about the people who watch their channels and buy the product they push. They are too busy making the next money making video, endorsement or whatever else they do..
Oh just to clear things up the 300 to 1400 speed came from something the BB person doing the blog read for another variable speed grinder…NOT the T64. Which as far as I am aware will be the same as the test sample I have 800-2000.
BB only have the single speed unit, until the one I have is returned to them.
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BB haven’t done a particularly good job with the presentation of this new product for sale. They are using images of a different model - without any kind of disclaimer or explanation. They refer to Dave’s video, again without explaining that the video shows a different model of the grinder and now they are potentially misrepresenting the grind speed range.
They really need to do better. As far as I know, nobody has seen this movable zeroing ring yet - it could be that it is clunky and ugly enough to dissuade potential buyers. Even if not, they should be doing better at explaining that the images on their website do not accurately present the grinder buyers will receive.
I’m sure they could have got images or renders from the manufacturer to use for publicity. If they couldn’t, they should have delayed the listing until they could take their own photo’s, double check the specification and then accurately list the item for sale. Using wrong images and wrong description is all a bit amateur hour.
EDIT - also not sure on the legality of claiming that the £459 price is a “sale” price from their standard price of £559 when it has never previously been offered for sale at £559. Pretty sure that retailers are expected to be able to evidence any claim that a “sale” price is indeed discounted from their previously advertised retail prices.