dfk41 then offer some of the first batch to forum members at a better pay price than to the general public

The bitching as you put it, is simply because BB failed to advertise their product accurately - either in the images or the specs. I don’t believe they are intending to mislead, but getting this stuff wrong is a bit amateurish and I’m surprised you think it’s a “shame” to mention it. Your’e generally one of the first to call out misleading reviews but here you are cutting BB slack despite them being a bit sloppy on this one. You must be getting soft in your old age! 😉

Not sure what better price you are referring to -it’s been £459 for everybody, forum or public since it was announced as far as I know.

    No it’s was £559 originally and you had a discount code to get it to £459

    They have since opened that price up to everyone, as they said they would the first 20 were to get the code from my reading

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      I think I said it somewhere above but I kind of feel for everyone involved here. It’s another 64mm flat from a non-descript East Asian company.

      It’s probably the most competitive space in the grinder market and a hard sell regardless of how glowing the review.

      Nobody’s fault other than total market saturation probably numbing people’s interest.

      Feels like we need something to come along and do a Niche Zero before we start getting excited again.

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        Don’t think you can now.

        The niche was totally different at the time and imo very competitively priced.

        Now if you want a good 64mm you’re over a grand for a zerno or lagom p64

        If you want bigger burrs that gets even crazier.

        I personally don’t like the rate the 64mm grinders are getting pushed out. Ten a penny comes to mind, and most are fugly

        Only one I quite like is the df64v, but they stall app.

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        Cuprajake No it’s was £559 originally and you had a discount code to get it to £459

        I don’t think it has ever been for sale at £559 though. The initial offer on here was described as a £100 discount for the forum - and then from 25 March it would be offered to the public with a £75 discount.

        However that’s not how things have played out - it’s only been offered at one price - £459 to everyone. This may be an introductory offer and it may go up to £559 at some point - only time will tell…

            Gagaryn I don’t think it has ever been for sale at £559 though. The initial offer on here was described as a £100 discount

            It was offered as initially intended (£559 rrp, £100 off with the discount code for forum members). That was like so for about 4 or 5 days. Only reason I know is because I kept checking and was tempted to buy one.

            But on Saturday, 23rd March, I checked the website and BB have lowered the price to £459 to the general public, appearing to have given up on the initial promotional strategy and opening the offer of £459 to everyone.

            Edit: just checked the calendar to make sure I got the dates right.

                As above it was £549 as I took was looking at it

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                MediumRoastSteam But on Saturday, 23rd March, I checked the website and BB have lowered the price to £459 to the general public, appearing to have given up on the initial promotional strategy and opening the offer of £459 to everyone.

                Thanks for correcting me, didn’t know that and was thrown by the email that was posted earlier showing BB as describing £459 as the “special launch price”. I simply took that at face value - didn’t appreciate that they launched earlier at a higher price and then relaunched at a lower price a few days later. Unfortunate for any poor enthusiastic early pre-orders.

                  HarveyMushman how glowing the review

                  Depends on whose review. if James H gave it a glowing review, you can be sure it’s out of stock within a few hours.
                  Lance reviewed the blind shaker and he only stated that the extraction was higher, not necessarily it tastes better, and sales of said tool skyrocketed. I am not a fan of Lance, but I’d be lying if I said I did not buy my blind shaker because of his video. I was always thinking it as an unnecessary tool.
                  Not sure why the debate of price comes from. I’m seeing 382.5 GBP which means no VAT (+20% and it’s 459). No indication of sale price whatsoever

                      delta76 Not sure why the debate of price comes from. I’m seeing 382.5 GBP which means no VAT (+20% and it’s 459). No indication of sale price whatsoever

                      This is what you see if you are in the UK:

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                          @Gagaryn

                          So flippin what

                          Did anyone else on this forums actually join it to read about coffee related products and get advice on certain items? Or did some of you just joined to debate the advertising ethics of a price that you have seen advertised in a way that you do not like?

                          Do people not have a brain. Can we not just decide to buy it based on the price it’s offered.

                          It’s getting boring just seeing lots of arguments of what words should be used in an advert.

                          BORING

                          Have you ever wondered if you’re washing powder or washing up? Liquid really is 5000% better than it was in 1970, which is approximately what it should be by now if you believe all the adverts in the meantime.

                          Does it really matter if it says Sale or introductory offers

                          It will not charge it’s performance or what you actually pay.

                          I for one. Decided to order it and see how it goes. Just based on the advice and videos by @DavecUK

                          If it does not live up to expectations then so what? I’m sure I have had much more expensive equipment that doesn’t. Based on what I have read I have decided to give it a try and fingers crossed i may even like it.

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                              dutchy101 - it looks really good I have to say. It’s in my basket 🤪

                              But I already have a Niche Duo so it would be an indulgence rather than a requirement. I’ve been very good in keeping away from the “buy” button, and would be delighted to hear how you get on. 👍

                                  MediumRoastSteam

                                  But what price will it be by then?

                                  I’m waiting for the day it arrives and the “not another one ” conversation.

                                  I expect to have at least one for sale by July, but which one? Time will tell.

                                  I’m Starting to wish I’d paid more attention to some comments by @DavecUK on other threads with the key word in the sentence. Let’s just say Lyn was the better half or the famous combo. Sometimes you need to play and decide for yourself!

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                                      Adrianmsmith I’d paid more attention to some comments by @DavecUK on other threads with the key word in the sentence

                                      Yep. He’s been saying that for a while. You definitely need to keep up with what really matters! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍 - and that’s key. 😘🤪

                                          MediumRoastSteam haha yeh!!!

                                          The good news is there’s a Niche product in a Prime position to play with as well.

                                          If all else fails the 1zpresso j ultra is all anyone really needs for espresso. ☕

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                                            HarveyMushman sorry but I think there are better forums to debate the wording of an advertisement at length. On here we should be more concerned about the quality of the product and whether it may play to our needs . If the word “sale” makes you click the buy button and continue to make a purchase then I feel for you.

                                            I’m mainly interested to see what all the fuss is about surrounding SSP burrs

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                                                Adrianmsmith I’m mainly interested to see what all the fuss is about surrounding SSB burrs

                                                SSP High Uniformity burrs.

                                                To keep the discussion on this grinder, the main reason I am holding fire is that the product tested by Dave is not the same exact product being sold by Bella Barista. Maybe I am too fussy… But, for the same reasons why I bought the Niche Zero and the Duo, was that Dave tested, and tested, and tested, and tested, and tested and tested the grinders as they were to be sold, including the burrs - call it testing the whole package if you wish. So for me at least, I’ll wait and will let other people let me know if that grinder works well with the SSP burrs - rather than whichever burrs Dave has tested it with, which as per Dave’s review, it seems to work rather well, barring the unknown longevity.

                                                  Adrianmsmith So flippin what

                                                  Did anyone else on this forums actually join it to read about coffee related products and get advice on certain items? Or did some of you just joined to debate the advertising ethics of a price that you have seen advertised in a way that you do not like?

                                                  Do people not have a brain. Can we not just decide to buy it based on the price it’s offered.

                                                  It’s getting boring just seeing lots of arguments of what words should be used in an advert.

                                                  BORING

                                                  This thread is about BB offering a new grinder and a forum offer for discount, so it’s not off topic to mention things like introductory offers, coupons and sale prices.

                                                  I find the ethics of retailers marketing interesting and I’m pretty sure I’m not breaking any rules by mention them. There are several other posts across multiple threads by many users of this forum that also mention the ethics of marketing, both by retailers and “influencers”. In fact it’s quite the hot topic on here - the fact that you find it boring is frankly irrelevant and certainly doesn’t warrant, what appears by your use of all caps, to be a tantrum.

                                                  Sure this will change when the grinders start shipping and the focus of the discussion pivots to usage and performance. You might want to come back then.