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@Raja123

I am not sure Raja You can really compare the two in the way that you do and especially using it to try to give advice to someone who is looking to purchase a new machine.

Doesn’t take a lot of reading to work out, I am one of the number one fans of ACS and due to a different user experience I also favour ACS more than Jake 🤐🥰🤪 currently .

BUT

As I like all things, electrical and mechanical I cannot pretend the decent does not also intrigue me and if my wife had a slightly different view of the decent I would have both by now, especially considering the 20% off they currently have on display models!!

@Jason1wood

As for your wife using it, I do not understand why she would not.

Do not get confused by the comments above by Raj about the Strietman as this is about as similar to an EVO 2 as the decent is!

Yes it is a lever but also Ferrari dino and ford escot are both cars

No, I am not about to pull down the Strietman If I had a spare room and the money. I would love to have a play with one but if you are looking for one from home the Evo 2 is far simpler to use and gives very good consistent results and I do not understand why people think there is an issue for the wife using it.

My wife originally would not use it and everyone who sees it says how complicated it “looks” but once they actually try it they agree it is not complicated and wonder what the fuss was all about.

Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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    Adrianmsmith I understand that. Im just trying to save myself the typing of the comparison points (it boils down to how the shots taste and what the preferences are). I know how to adjust things to make things relevant for a comparison (my line of work is in the field of technical analysis). What I am mindful of is that people need to go on their own journey and work things out for themselves.

    I have no vested interest in the outcome (hence my advice not to worry too much about the parameters of the Decent vs the overall max quality of the shots it produces, even though Im selling one!). Just sharing what I found and some of why Im moving the machine on.

    it boils down to what you want,

    the decent thats being sold has that much gear with it, you have imo way to many options lol, there like 45 baskets ;)

    i dont think its fair to come pare the two anyways as they are totally different animals in my mind, and as above depends on your end goals and what you water as a user experience etc. there is no right or wrong or better machine in this instance.

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    That’s because I like to explore everything before I dismiss it outright. But that’s just me.

    I am one of the few here not to recommend to Jason a machine. My advice to him, is not to listen too much to other peoples opinions (including mine!). Sure, do research of whatever sort you can, set a budget, decide if it is new or used. If new, go down to BB for a pre-arranged visit telling them the 2 machines you want a closer look at and they will set them up side by side for you to have a play. It is only Northampton and for the sake of 3 ½ hours travel you will be able to make sure.

    The Decent, you have an owner giving one bit of advice backed by two years experience followed by another owner not agreeing!

    For clarity Jason and I go way back. I sold him his Mythos many moons ago. Jason is coming to see me on Saturday for a coffee and a chat. Yes he can have a play on the Evo but I will not be swaying him on it. When I was working people paid me handsomely to give them advice and because of that, I understand the implications involved. Now, the elephant in the room of course will be Jason turning up with a brown bag stuffed full of cash, but I do not think that will happen somehow!

      dfk41 My advice to him, is not to listen too much to other peoples opinions (including mine!).

      Nah, just let ( convince ) him buy the Evo 🤪😎

      P.S. is the evo ready for its first clean and lube yet. ☕

      Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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        people generally recommend what they have,

        dpends on budget, up to 2k the bianca is the best bang for buck,

        id recommend a used evo 1 - not a new evo2 but be prepared to repair it yourself,

        once budget goes higher, then you have way more options and you need to consider whats important for you, they all make good coffee….

        thats my bit.

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        Raja123 thanks for that advice. Yeah ill be swerving the Decent, but thanks for honest opinion, much appreciated 👏

        Yeah off the Davids at the weekend to have my first go at a lever, looking forward to it.

        Depends on what machine I get and how much it costs, hopefully will be pairing with a Philos and moving on my beautiful Mythos as do defo need single dosing. That’s my choice of grinder so no need to go down that rabbit hole 🤣🤣🤣

          Jason1wood yes that was the goal, to give you some contrast. You need to go on your own journey, really.

          Jason1wood

          If its a Philos you want i may know where there is one if you don’t want new, with both burrs!! Will drop it in the classified once i decide. Duo or Philos will be for my wifes Decaf . Still 50 50 at this time which will be fie sale.

          Haven’t seen the monstrosity of the north this year 🥰 (thats not a reference to David either) if it needed delivering .

          Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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            Ultimately the best thing to do is usually to buy that machine which catches your imagination. Which is the one your heart really wants to have on your kitchen counter and to use every day?

            Jason1wood

            Let me know Saturday when you leave David (sobbing as you load the Evo) and will call over on Sunday 🤐 @dfk41

            Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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              Adrianmsmith I won’t be taking his pride and joy. Be interesting to see it in action but I now know where my money is going after all the advice here. 👌

              HarveyMushman Someone posted a vid here a while back showing a transparent case version and it looked great.

              I am a big fan of the transparent case option… the lights were easy to put in as the case just slides off.

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                JammyDodger

                Looks great .

                Bet it makes a massive difference to “in the cup” taste as well 🥰🤪.

                Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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                  It’s an enlightening experience

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                  I had a quick look at that lever on YouTube,

                  So it’s similar to a pavoni? But with a pid?

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