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it boils down to what you want,

the decent thats being sold has that much gear with it, you have imo way to many options lol, there like 45 baskets ;)

i dont think its fair to come pare the two anyways as they are totally different animals in my mind, and as above depends on your end goals and what you water as a user experience etc. there is no right or wrong or better machine in this instance.

That’s because I like to explore everything before I dismiss it outright. But that’s just me.

I am one of the few here not to recommend to Jason a machine. My advice to him, is not to listen too much to other peoples opinions (including mine!). Sure, do research of whatever sort you can, set a budget, decide if it is new or used. If new, go down to BB for a pre-arranged visit telling them the 2 machines you want a closer look at and they will set them up side by side for you to have a play. It is only Northampton and for the sake of 3 ½ hours travel you will be able to make sure.

The Decent, you have an owner giving one bit of advice backed by two years experience followed by another owner not agreeing!

For clarity Jason and I go way back. I sold him his Mythos many moons ago. Jason is coming to see me on Saturday for a coffee and a chat. Yes he can have a play on the Evo but I will not be swaying him on it. When I was working people paid me handsomely to give them advice and because of that, I understand the implications involved. Now, the elephant in the room of course will be Jason turning up with a brown bag stuffed full of cash, but I do not think that will happen somehow!

Adrianmsmith ACS and a Niche would make someone happy here, heh.

people generally recommend what they have,

dpends on budget, up to 2k the bianca is the best bang for buck,

id recommend a used evo 1 - not a new evo2 but be prepared to repair it yourself,

once budget goes higher, then you have way more options and you need to consider whats important for you, they all make good coffee….

thats my bit.

Jason1wood yes that was the goal, to give you some contrast. You need to go on your own journey, really.

Ultimately the best thing to do is usually to buy that machine which catches your imagination. Which is the one your heart really wants to have on your kitchen counter and to use every day?

Jason1wood

Let me know Saturday when you leave David (sobbing as you load the Evo) and will call over on Sunday 🤐 @dfk41

HarveyMushman Someone posted a vid here a while back showing a transparent case version and it looked great.

I am a big fan of the transparent case option… the lights were easy to put in as the case just slides off.

JammyDodger

Looks great .

Bet it makes a massive difference to “in the cup” taste as well 🥰🤪.

It’s an enlightening experience

Adrianmsmith

Dang it, if only I’d have known it made that difference.

I had a quick look at that lever on YouTube,

So it’s similar to a pavoni? But with a pid?

Cuprajake No PID, just a good quality German thermostat, because the designer wanted a machine that needed little servicing or repairs. Unlike the Pavoni (which also has steam), it has an open boiler. A very simple design, for espresso purists who want a tactile experience and something that looks rather unique. It takes some practice to build up consistency, so it’s not something I’d recommend to most people.

could of swarn the reviewer said pid,

yeah its not something most would buy, very niche product. - for the purist and all

i mean being a purist, who need a temp gauge, pressure gauge room to fit a scale, just push your arm down jobs a goodun,

id say more pretentious then purist but each to their own.