dfk41 My advice to him, is not to listen too much to other peoples opinions (including mine!).

Nah, just let ( convince ) him buy the Evo 🤪😎

P.S. is the evo ready for its first clean and lube yet. ☕

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    people generally recommend what they have,

    dpends on budget, up to 2k the bianca is the best bang for buck,

    id recommend a used evo 1 - not a new evo2 but be prepared to repair it yourself,

    once budget goes higher, then you have way more options and you need to consider whats important for you, they all make good coffee….

    thats my bit.

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    Raja123 thanks for that advice. Yeah ill be swerving the Decent, but thanks for honest opinion, much appreciated 👏

    Yeah off the Davids at the weekend to have my first go at a lever, looking forward to it.

    Depends on what machine I get and how much it costs, hopefully will be pairing with a Philos and moving on my beautiful Mythos as do defo need single dosing. That’s my choice of grinder so no need to go down that rabbit hole 🤣🤣🤣

      Jason1wood yes that was the goal, to give you some contrast. You need to go on your own journey, really.

      Jason1wood

      If its a Philos you want i may know where there is one if you don’t want new, with both burrs!! Will drop it in the classified once i decide. Duo or Philos will be for my wifes Decaf . Still 50 50 at this time which will be fie sale.

      Haven’t seen the monstrosity of the north this year 🥰 (thats not a reference to David either) if it needed delivering .

      Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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        Ultimately the best thing to do is usually to buy that machine which catches your imagination. Which is the one your heart really wants to have on your kitchen counter and to use every day?

        Jason1wood

        Let me know Saturday when you leave David (sobbing as you load the Evo) and will call over on Sunday 🤐 @dfk41

        Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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          Adrianmsmith I won’t be taking his pride and joy. Be interesting to see it in action but I now know where my money is going after all the advice here. 👌

          HarveyMushman Someone posted a vid here a while back showing a transparent case version and it looked great.

          I am a big fan of the transparent case option… the lights were easy to put in as the case just slides off.

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            JammyDodger

            Looks great .

            Bet it makes a massive difference to “in the cup” taste as well 🥰🤪.

            Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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              It’s an enlightening experience

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              I had a quick look at that lever on YouTube,

              So it’s similar to a pavoni? But with a pid?

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                Cuprajake No PID, just a good quality German thermostat, because the designer wanted a machine that needed little servicing or repairs. Unlike the Pavoni (which also has steam), it has an open boiler. A very simple design, for espresso purists who want a tactile experience and something that looks rather unique. It takes some practice to build up consistency, so it’s not something I’d recommend to most people.

                could of swarn the reviewer said pid,

                yeah its not something most would buy, very niche product. - for the purist and all

                i mean being a purist, who need a temp gauge, pressure gauge room to fit a scale, just push your arm down jobs a goodun,

                id say more pretentious then purist but each to their own.

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                  Cuprajake

                  Hey, at least thet use it with a great grinder 🤪😬🤓

                  Ade Smith. ACS Evo Leva v2. Kafatek Flat max 2, ssw 2024. Mazzer Philos, Craig Lyn HG-1 prime., WW key mk1.

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                  Yes, Im well aware it won’t appeal to many people. But it produces drinks that wow me, despite being so minimalist, even in the company of the highly-configurable Decent DE1. That’s enough for me to move the Decent on.

                  Worthy of note is that even Decent recognizes the fill rate of the DE1 is a limitation for puck compression, and is consequently introducing a new vibe pump setup on the Bengle that moves the max out to 12ml/s, later to be followed by a rotary pump that goes out to the 20ml/s range, alike the well-regarded 58mm machines.